Rule No 1 saved my bacon again last night
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Haring down a sliproad which becomes lane one of a two->three lane stretch last night I saw a truck on the road already. He was ahead of me but I was gaining fairly smartly. My powers of anticipation told me that I would pass him just as my sliproad became lane one.
I didn't want to accelerate to much more speed (speed kills after all, even though in this case it would have guaranteed that I'd joined far enuogh ahead to be safe) so decided to see how it panned out, expecting him to see me and realise he could just stay in his lane for 20 more metres as I wafted through harmlessly.
Lol, of couse not, I expected him to try and kill me! After all this is The First Rule of Motorway Driving -- a trucker will always try and issue summary justice for what they consider to be bad driving by causing DEATH to the perp.
Sure enough just as he got to the very point of the triangle of chevrons separating my sliproad from the main road, not even half a flash of the indicator before he practically turned the rig on its side to carve me up.
Of couse, rule number one meant I was on the brakes in plenty of time and averted his attempted death move.
No wonder you never see an accident on the motorway without the obligitory trucker or two parked up.
SM
I didn't want to accelerate to much more speed (speed kills after all, even though in this case it would have guaranteed that I'd joined far enuogh ahead to be safe) so decided to see how it panned out, expecting him to see me and realise he could just stay in his lane for 20 more metres as I wafted through harmlessly.
Lol, of couse not, I expected him to try and kill me! After all this is The First Rule of Motorway Driving -- a trucker will always try and issue summary justice for what they consider to be bad driving by causing DEATH to the perp.
Sure enough just as he got to the very point of the triangle of chevrons separating my sliproad from the main road, not even half a flash of the indicator before he practically turned the rig on its side to carve me up.
Of couse, rule number one meant I was on the brakes in plenty of time and averted his attempted death move.
No wonder you never see an accident on the motorway without the obligitory trucker or two parked up.
SM
But seriously though, what drives a person to deliberately move into the path of a fast moving vehicle?
It's highly possible my wedge shaped car could have gone underneath his trailer killing me and any passengers I might have had.
Why would a human being want to do this to another? And "It's his own fault for tearing down the sliproad" doesn't work.
SM
It's highly possible my wedge shaped car could have gone underneath his trailer killing me and any passengers I might have had.
Why would a human being want to do this to another? And "It's his own fault for tearing down the sliproad" doesn't work.
SM
supermono said:
But seriously though, what drives a person to deliberately move into the path of a fast moving vehicle?
It's highly possible my wedge shaped car could have gone underneath his trailer killing me and any passengers I might have had.
Why would a human being want to do this to another? And "It's his own fault for tearing down the sliproad" doesn't work.
SM
As i said earlier thats why It's highly possible my wedge shaped car could have gone underneath his trailer killing me and any passengers I might have had.
Why would a human being want to do this to another? And "It's his own fault for tearing down the sliproad" doesn't work.
SM
Highway code has been re-written for years now :-
MSM
Mirror Signal Maneuver ... forget it
Should read
Maneuver .. whenever I want
Signal .. sometimes
Mirror .. to see what the grating noise was , or how many people I just carved up .
It really is amazing how fast and scary these big 38 tonners can change lane
MSM
Mirror Signal Maneuver ... forget it
Should read
Maneuver .. whenever I want
Signal .. sometimes
Mirror .. to see what the grating noise was , or how many people I just carved up .
It really is amazing how fast and scary these big 38 tonners can change lane
I always leave as much room between me and a truck as possible, at all times. I don't think they always look in their mirrors, or sometimes I think the "I'm bigger, so you'll brake" system of thought is engaged when they pull out 100ft in front of a car which is zooming down the outside lane.
Jasandjules said:
I always leave as much room between me and a truck as possible, at all times. I don't think they always look in their mirrors, or sometimes I think the "I'm bigger, so you'll brake" system of thought is engaged when they pull out 100ft in front of a car which is zooming down the outside lane.
Me too. As I've said it's The First Rule. This guy saw me and had to go to some considerable effort to make sure he got in front. Totally expected behaviour but usually they tend to be just a little more subtle about it.I honestly think he wanted to kill me.
SM
The typical move is the one where they cause you to slow down by changing lane in front of you simply because they need to pass another vehcle. Often they're seen pulling out of laybys expecting everybody else to sort themselves out into the two spare lanes behind, sometimes causing someone "trapped" in the slow lane to come to an almost standstill from 70+.
They'll sometimes pull across in front of a car "travelling too fast" to teach them a lesson. They'll make no attempt to reciprocate when it's you trying to get in a gap and they'll close it up deliberately.
Whatever little games they play are very effective. When did you last see a pile up on the motorway without an artic somewhere amongst it?
SM
They'll sometimes pull across in front of a car "travelling too fast" to teach them a lesson. They'll make no attempt to reciprocate when it's you trying to get in a gap and they'll close it up deliberately.
Whatever little games they play are very effective. When did you last see a pile up on the motorway without an artic somewhere amongst it?
SM
Well OK, of course there some dubious antics, but are we doing our best to work round them and keep things safe and comfortable. Maybe we could do better. At any rate it's no use getting into a dispute and running the risk of a shunt, especially with those fellows!
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Speed Saves Lives (pass it on)Did you notice the nationality of the trucker (from his licence plates)? I ask because I've noticed the standards of HGV driving deteriorating dramatically in the past few years and it's almost always the East Europeans. Sometimes they're driving rigs liveried up to West European companies - Norbert Destressangle, Willi Betz, even Eddie Stobart - but the cabs are registered in Poland, Latvia, Czech Republic.
I'm sure there are good East European HGV drivers and bad British ones, but generally when I see the former I give it extra leeway...
I'm sure there are good East European HGV drivers and bad British ones, but generally when I see the former I give it extra leeway...
almost all of them supermono said:
But seriously though, what drives a person to deliberately move into the path of a fast moving vehicle?
It's highly possible my wedge shaped car could have gone underneath his trailer killing me and any passengers I might have had.
Why would a human being want to do this to another? And "It's his own fault for tearing down the sliproad" doesn't work.
SM
Maybe he misjudged your speed? We are all human - even those who happen to drive trucks for a living.It's highly possible my wedge shaped car could have gone underneath his trailer killing me and any passengers I might have had.
Why would a human being want to do this to another? And "It's his own fault for tearing down the sliproad" doesn't work.
SM
I ride sportsbikes so I am very aware that people don't register the speed you are travelling but only the distance you are from them. Similar if you are in a low, fast car.
You need to bear this in mind and be ready to react - as you did. No point being in the right if you are dead.
Edited to add - you, of course, ride bikes too so you should know this already.
Edited by rsv gone! on Tuesday 9th October 13:41
Markbishop said:
Did you notice the nationality of the trucker (from his licence plates)? I ask because I've noticed the standards of HGV driving deteriorating dramatically in the past few years and it's almost always the East Europeans. Sometimes they're driving rigs liveried up to West European companies - Norbert Destressangle, Willi Betz, even Eddie Stobart - but the cabs are registered in Poland, Latvia, Czech Republic.
I'm sure there are good East European HGV drivers and bad British ones, but generally when I see the former I give it extra leeway...
I suspect this is because they are on the wrong side of the vehicle to be able to effectively check their blindspots etc.. and that the driving standards are, shall we say, slightly different?I'm sure there are good East European HGV drivers and bad British ones, but generally when I see the former I give it extra leeway...
Great another truck bashing thread. 
So did you join and get level or stay behind him??
) doesn't or couldn't see the "haring" down the sliproad which joins at a angle indicates (another thing some car drivers could learn from ) and you call it a death move
supermono said:
Haring down a sliproad which becomes lane one of a two->three lane stretch last night I saw a truck on the road already. He was ahead of me but I was gaining fairly smartly. My powers of anticipation told me that I would pass him just as my sliproad became lane one.
So were you looking to undertake??supermono said:
I didn't want to accelerate to much more speed (speed kills after all, even though in this case it would have guaranteed that I'd joined far enuogh ahead to be safe) so decided to see how it panned out, expecting him to see me and realise he could just stay in his lane for 20 more metres as I wafted through harmlessly.
So you were looking to undertake.So did you join and get level or stay behind him??
supermono said:
Lol, of course not, I expected him to try and kill me! After all this is The First Rule of Motorway Driving -- a trucker will always try and issue summary justice for what they consider to be bad driving by causing DEATH to the perp.
supermono said:
Sure enough just as he got to the very point of the triangle of chevrons separating my sliproad from the main road, not even half a flash of the indicator before he practically turned the rig on its side to carve me up.
Of couse, rule number one meant I was on the brakes in plenty of time and averted his attempted death move.
No wonder you never see an accident on the motorway without the obligitory trucker or two parked up.
SM
So he moves over to lane 1 (not a move alot of car drivers do Of couse, rule number one meant I was on the brakes in plenty of time and averted his attempted death move.
No wonder you never see an accident on the motorway without the obligitory trucker or two parked up.
SM
) doesn't or couldn't see the "haring" down the sliproad which joins at a angle indicates (another thing some car drivers could learn from ) and you call it a death move Marki said:
They are 
s all of them
HTH
Marki you were told once but i'll say it again your a s all of them HTH
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