What is the quickest street legal 4 pot car over 1/4 mile?
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Hi
I am looking for the quickest street legal (able to drive legally to the Pod/Shakespeare/etc and run without changing tyres, etc) 4 cylinder (any configuration) car over the 1/4 mile.
I thought that this would be relatively simple, but it is proving anything but. Santa Pod don't know, nor do Shakespeare although they have given me a few leads. Andy Forrest has run in the 9.1s. Simon Norris 9.3.
Anybody know of anything quicker (not pub talk, my mate knows someone, etc)? Must be in road legal trim when run was made. Only 4 pots need apply :-)
Here's hoping.......
Steve
I am looking for the quickest street legal (able to drive legally to the Pod/Shakespeare/etc and run without changing tyres, etc) 4 cylinder (any configuration) car over the 1/4 mile.
I thought that this would be relatively simple, but it is proving anything but. Santa Pod don't know, nor do Shakespeare although they have given me a few leads. Andy Forrest has run in the 9.1s. Simon Norris 9.3.
Anybody know of anything quicker (not pub talk, my mate knows someone, etc)? Must be in road legal trim when run was made. Only 4 pots need apply :-)
Here's hoping.......
Steve
What did that Turbo Minor used to run ? Cant remember the guys name, Nick something ? Mann ?
Seem to recollect it causing a stir many years ago.
ETA - It was Nic Mann, but the car was Rover powered ! Doh ! Could have sworn it was 4 pot powered.
Seem to recollect it causing a stir many years ago.
ETA - It was Nic Mann, but the car was Rover powered ! Doh ! Could have sworn it was 4 pot powered.
Edited by Furyous on Wednesday 10th October 12:57
I think John Tebenham ran slicks on his Street Eliminator 100E. I think you were allowed then in the Pro Class before Simon Payne dominated with that 632, lenco equipped Pro Mod Camaro with wipers and an alternator.
How about that ratted MK3 cortina owned by Mick Rogers? He runs mid to low tens with a cossie lump. He still does a few events maybe HRG class?
How about that ratted MK3 cortina owned by Mick Rogers? He runs mid to low tens with a cossie lump. He still does a few events maybe HRG class?
Flying Toilet said:
I think John Tebenham ran slicks on his Street Eliminator 100E. I think you were allowed then in the Pro Class before Simon Payne dominated with that 632, lenco equipped Pro Mod Camaro with wipers and an alternator.
How about that ratted MK3 cortina owned by Mick Rogers? He runs mid to low tens with a cossie lump. He still does a few events maybe HRG class?
JT's 105E was on treads, he was Sportsman SE champion in 97 (from memory). I'm sure he never ran in Pro Street.How about that ratted MK3 cortina owned by Mick Rogers? He runs mid to low tens with a cossie lump. He still does a few events maybe HRG class?
Simon's Camaro ran a 515ci lump too, it was Colin Taylor's old piece from his Thunderbird. (random fact fans!)
Rat_Fink_67 said:
Flying Toilet said:
I think John Tebenham ran slicks on his Street Eliminator 100E. I think you were allowed then in the Pro Class before Simon Payne dominated with that 632, lenco equipped Pro Mod Camaro with wipers and an alternator.
How about that ratted MK3 cortina owned by Mick Rogers? He runs mid to low tens with a cossie lump. He still does a few events maybe HRG class?
JT's 105E was on treads, he was Sportsman SE champion in 97 (from memory). I'm sure he never ran in Pro Street.How about that ratted MK3 cortina owned by Mick Rogers? He runs mid to low tens with a cossie lump. He still does a few events maybe HRG class?
Simon's Camaro ran a 515ci lump too, it was Colin Taylor's old piece from his Thunderbird. (random fact fans!)
I also think you may be right about JT. A random fact about that car was the rear wing was made with a Helicopter blade!
I also remember the SE days when lencos and big doses of gas ruled the day...I will never forget Rob Loaring wedging Al Cooks Lenco in gear with a broom handle!
Flying Toilet said:
You are right, it was a 515ci motor. Remember Colin had a roof hatch on his Thunderbird like a FC? Last time i saw that car Ashley Bell ran it in Super Pro with a Hemi lump.
I also think you may be right about JT. A random fact about that car was the rear wing was made with a Helicopter blade!
I also remember the SE days when lencos and big doses of gas ruled the day...I will never forget Rob Loaring wedging Al Cooks Lenco in gear with a broom handle!
Ahh, the trusty rotor blade. If I remember rightly, Bowser also ran that same bit of blade as a wing on his 34 coupe too, before it was the hi-tech purple device that ran in Street Eliminator.I also think you may be right about JT. A random fact about that car was the rear wing was made with a Helicopter blade!
I also remember the SE days when lencos and big doses of gas ruled the day...I will never forget Rob Loaring wedging Al Cooks Lenco in gear with a broom handle!
I remember Rob telling me a story about being out on the cruise in Cooky's Dodge once. To keep it from cutting out approaching junctions, while Al's feet were covering the clutch and the brake, Rob was leaning across and pressing the throttle down too! Copious amounts of nitrous were used in those days too as I recall, to keep the radiators cool on the cruise!!
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 10th October 12:12
Rat_Fink_67 said:
Flying Toilet said:
You are right, it was a 515ci motor. Remember Colin had a roof hatch on his Thunderbird like a FC? Last time i saw that car Ashley Bell ran it in Super Pro with a Hemi lump.
I also think you may be right about JT. A random fact about that car was the rear wing was made with a Helicopter blade!
I also remember the SE days when lencos and big doses of gas ruled the day...I will never forget Rob Loaring wedging Al Cooks Lenco in gear with a broom handle!
Ahh, the trusty rotor blade. If I remember rightly, Bowser also ran that same bit of blade as a wing on his 34 coupe too, before it was the hi-tech purple device that ran in Street Eliminator.I also think you may be right about JT. A random fact about that car was the rear wing was made with a Helicopter blade!
I also remember the SE days when lencos and big doses of gas ruled the day...I will never forget Rob Loaring wedging Al Cooks Lenco in gear with a broom handle!
Edited by Rat_Fink_67 on Wednesday 10th October 12:12
Edited by Flying Toilet on Wednesday 10th October 12:31
Simon Norris' 9.26 in the green shorty Evo wasn't on pump gas either, he uses race fuel.
You're problem is, that to be brutally honest, do enough people really care what the quickest, steet legal, pump gas, four pot, doo de doo de dum dum is, for there to be a "record"?
Its like who is the fastest Red and White 56 Chevy 210 Sedan running a 710cuin nitrous combination on block treads from Scotland?
Unless someone comes up with a set of rules for a class which is recognised by the MSA with cars all then conforming to the rules as well as safety regulations, its very difficult to answer a simple question such as your's as there will always be a number of caveats. Whereas with a recognised class you can easily find an accredited class record.
Which also calls into question:
If a record is "unofficial" as it is run in a non-MSA permit event ie a RWYB, would it need to be backed up within 1% as per MSA/FIA rules? Wouldn't the fact that SOME of these cars would not meet MSA white book spec for the times they were running negate the 1% backup rule anyway even if the record was hypothetical?
ZC
You're problem is, that to be brutally honest, do enough people really care what the quickest, steet legal, pump gas, four pot, doo de doo de dum dum is, for there to be a "record"?
Its like who is the fastest Red and White 56 Chevy 210 Sedan running a 710cuin nitrous combination on block treads from Scotland?
Unless someone comes up with a set of rules for a class which is recognised by the MSA with cars all then conforming to the rules as well as safety regulations, its very difficult to answer a simple question such as your's as there will always be a number of caveats. Whereas with a recognised class you can easily find an accredited class record.
Which also calls into question:
If a record is "unofficial" as it is run in a non-MSA permit event ie a RWYB, would it need to be backed up within 1% as per MSA/FIA rules? Wouldn't the fact that SOME of these cars would not meet MSA white book spec for the times they were running negate the 1% backup rule anyway even if the record was hypothetical?
ZC
Edited by Chester_ on Friday 12th October 03:43
Chester_ said:
Which also calls into question:
If a record is "unofficial" as it is run in a non-MSA permit event ie a RWYB, would it need to be backed up within 1% as per MSA/FIA rules? Wouldn't the fact that SOME of these cars would not meet MSA white book spec for the times they were running negate the 1% backup rule anyway even if the record was hypothetical?
Anyone can stake a claim on an unofficial record, that is why there are official ones. Your point pretty much says 'unofficial records are unofficial'. It is down to the person staking the claim to specify what standards they were applying, I could claim to have the fastest 2CV in the world because it was caught by a speed camera in a 30 zone if I wanted!If a record is "unofficial" as it is run in a non-MSA permit event ie a RWYB, would it need to be backed up within 1% as per MSA/FIA rules? Wouldn't the fact that SOME of these cars would not meet MSA white book spec for the times they were running negate the 1% backup rule anyway even if the record was hypothetical?
liner33 said:
Tet said:
redvictor said:
unfortunately skylines run SIX cylinders Mick
Not only that, but the ones running respectable times don't run on pump fuel or street legal tyres, either...
how are we defining 'street legal'?
got a current mot?
driven to the meeting? rather than trailered
standard car? (not a shortened/lightened car like Simon Norris)
pump fuel? or race fuel that meets the MSA blue book spec for 'pump fuel'.
I have some customers who drive to our shop in race cars.
and others who race road legal (including rally spec) cars.
but the problem is, when trying to go quick (for a record for example) even temparory changes are often made (eg fuel/tyres etc) that would make it NOT street legal.
got a current mot?
driven to the meeting? rather than trailered
standard car? (not a shortened/lightened car like Simon Norris)
pump fuel? or race fuel that meets the MSA blue book spec for 'pump fuel'.
I have some customers who drive to our shop in race cars.
and others who race road legal (including rally spec) cars.
but the problem is, when trying to go quick (for a record for example) even temparory changes are often made (eg fuel/tyres etc) that would make it NOT street legal.
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