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aerotec

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16 posts

270 months

Saturday 21st June 2003
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what is the best way to deal with a bib when you are stopped.
i generally get out of the car and approach them trying to be polite and pleasent,
are there any things that will make your life easier,and what are the things that will piss them off, (dont want to get on off on the wrong foot)

GAZ_3884

457 posts

272 months

Saturday 21st June 2003
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aerotec said:
what is the best way to deal with a bib when you are stopped.
i generally get out of the car and approach them trying to be polite and pleasent,
are there any things that will make your life easier,and what are the things that will piss them off, (dont want to get on off on the wrong foot)


My first thought is definitely to get out of the car so you are on a level with them - if you stay in then they will be talking down to you and that puts you in a psychologically weaker position. Politeness and pleasantry are essential even if you really want to hit the fcuker. And IMHO being honest helps. If you have been caught doing something wrong and you know they're right, trying to protest your innocence or argue with it will make things worse for you. Holding your hands up to it ('Fair cop, guv') is a far better approach and will occasionally help your cause. I know of a few people that have done this and been let off because of it.

I'd be interested to hear a BIB's perspective though...

Bodo

12,429 posts

286 months

Saturday 21st June 2003
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Just treat them how you want to be treated. Show them respect, don't deny what you did obviously, be friendly and humorous to relax the situation.

I never got a fine when stopped, and always was wished a good trip when leaving the scene Worked well in in England and Germany

alpine-star

220 posts

276 months

Saturday 21st June 2003
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I agree with GAZ_3884 and Bodo 100%. Be friendly and polite and if you've done wrong then why try fight it.

The last time I was stopped the officer ask "do you know why I've stopped you sir" and I said yes, I said why I thought he had stopped me and that was that. We had a friendly chat for about 20 minutes. I think because we where chatting he must have missed 10 other speeding motorist's. He said I should slow down just a little as I was only doing 35 in a 30 zone and that was that.

He was a nice policeman and that was that. I drove away and I still have a clean licence.



>> Edited by alpine-star on Saturday 21st June 14:05

>> Edited by alpine-star on Saturday 21st June 14:06

joust

14,622 posts

279 months

Saturday 21st June 2003
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Just be friendly.

Worked for me all the time, and still have a totally clean license.

Also - even if there isn't any reason you can see - be friendly and just ask - you might find that they are just interested in a "chat". Recently I was flagged down on the way home in the Noble, which annoyed me a bit as I was in a hurry to get home, but I was just friendly and smiled a lot, it turned out after a few minutes the guys in the police car just wanted to know how fast it went

"0-100 in 9.4 and 161 at Bruntingthorpe" was the reply , few mins chat, and sent off with a "thanks". I am sure if I'd been arsy (e.g. "what do you want" type attitude) they could have easily turned it into a 40 minute inspection of the car....

J

madcop

6,649 posts

283 months

Saturday 21st June 2003
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DONUTS :

alpine-star

220 posts

276 months

Saturday 21st June 2003
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What are you saying madcop, we should carry donuts around with us. Wouldn't that be seen as a bribe?

Would we need to offer coffee with the donuts mate

deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Saturday 21st June 2003
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And a sunlounger!

alpine-star

220 posts

276 months

Saturday 21st June 2003
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Would we have to supply portable air-conditioning units to keep them cool in this hot weather as well?

tonyrec

3,984 posts

275 months

Saturday 21st June 2003
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As ive siad before....its is extremely hard to give a ticket to someone who is very pleasant...........and conversly its extremely easy to give a ticket to someone who is quite plainly an ass*hole.

dannyboyo

2,392 posts

299 months

Saturday 21st June 2003
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Totally agreed, polite, honest and apologetic (but not over the top)

I got caught the other day doing 102mph average, and could have easily been banned had the BiB wanted but ended up with a fixed penalty and 3 points. Full story here

ledfoot

777 posts

272 months

Sunday 22nd June 2003
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alpine-star said:
Would we have to supply portable air-conditioning units to keep them cool in this hot weather as well?


Cup of tea and a cake

alpine-star

220 posts

276 months

Sunday 22nd June 2003
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ledfoot, are we talking chocolate cake mate

toad_oftoadhall

936 posts

271 months

Monday 23rd June 2003
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tonyrec said:
As ive siad before....its is extremely hard to give a ticket to someone who is very pleasant...........and conversly its extremely easy to give a ticket to someone who is quite plainly an ass*hole.



Jack Straws driver must be a *really* personable guy!!! ;-)

edc

9,457 posts

271 months

Monday 23rd June 2003
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Be polite, acknowledge that you have done wrong if it was very blatant and don't be cocky.

Here's my tale:

I was on my way to the College of Law in Guildford on a saturday morning. I'd ended up in the wrong lane, but at the front of the queues, at a set of traffic lights. I thought I would indicate left and rather than butt in that I would 'beat' the other car off the lights. I had no intention of racing or speeding but, hands up, this probably wasn't the best way to make progress. Anyway, it was wet and I had one front driven wheel on a manhole cover and I went away from the lights with a smallish but healthy amount of wheelspin and I was on my merry way. I heard the sirens but there were no cars anywhere near me but I was soon caught up by an unmarked Mondeo with several police on board. I parked up the car and stepped onto the pavement and waited for them to come over. "Do you know why we stopped you?", "Reckless driving perhaps?", " You do realise that you were driving reclessly then?", "Yes, I'm sorry, I have no excuse", "Do you have any ID?", "Erm, no, but I've got my College of Law photocard", "Ok, we'll give you a warning this time, but (with a smirk) that's not the behaviour we expect from future custodians of the law".

TheExcession

11,669 posts

270 months

Wednesday 25th June 2003
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Hey Tony

Just thinking about how to deal with an officer when you get stopped. Obviously politness and courstessy play a big part but I've read mixed reports about presenting all your documents.

Some say that it is good to have all your docs as it can give the officer a bit of time to calm down whilst he reads them all and it lends to the fact that you are a 'responsible motorist'. Others seem to suggest it is a no-go and you should only take them to the station later with a presenter.

I've also heard that an officer is not supposed to check your license for points as the situation should be judged purely on the merits of the actual incident and not on your past behaviour.

Years ago I was stopped as a learner on my old Suzuki 125 having just ridden out of a NSL into a 30 zone. It was a long straight road and I was doing way over the limit for a good 2 miles into the 30. Eventually a crafty bike cop pulled out of my blind spot and pulled me over.

After a bit of a chat a lorry driver turned up and started asking for directions, the cop wasn't from the area so I duly provided the info - it was really funny leaving the guy twiddling his thumbs for 5 minutes whilst I got the lorry driver on his way, afterwards the cop was really pleasant and we just had a chat about everything and off I went (armed with a valuable bit of knowledge on blind spots).

On another occaision I got stopped by a traffic cop (in a car) coming out of Manchester one night, I'd moved into the outside lane of a dual carriage way to over take a particularly weary car that was pinned to the limit. As I performed this manouvre I noticed a set of head lights rapidly approaching in the mirror and accelerated to get past this vehicle and out of the way of the one behind. As I speeded up on came the blue lights and I was done for 45 in a 30 zone. The guy was a complete c**nt - I was just getting off my bike and turning round to take my helmet off and the guy is right there in my face with 'get your helmet off'.... it was totally intimidating and as 'virgin' biker he really caught me out with his agressive attitude.


any thoughts?

thanks
Ex

Don

28,378 posts

304 months

Wednesday 25th June 2003
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madcop said:
DONUTS :


Come on, mad. You're BRITISH! Donuts, "my arse". What do BRITISH cops actually nosh to get fat whilst "staking out" some "bad lads". My guess is "Fish'n'chips" or (if not lunchtime) a nice cup of tea and piece of cake...surely not coffee and donuts...it just isn't right...

Restore my faith in the good old fashioned British copper and admit to a cup of hot chocolate and a deep fried Mars bar...come on...

madcop

6,649 posts

283 months

Wednesday 25th June 2003
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TheExcession said:



I've also heard that an officer is not supposed to check your license for points as the situation should be judged purely on the merits of the actual incident and not on your past behaviour.


You have heard incorrectly then. The Police have to look at the points on your licence to see if you come within the scope of the fixed penalty system if they are considering dealing with you in that way. If you have 9 points they are unable to issue a FPT and have to report you for summons for the offence, handing you back your licence.

madcop

6,649 posts

283 months

Wednesday 25th June 2003
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Don said:

madcop said:
DONUTS :



Come on, mad. You're BRITISH! Donuts, "my arse". What do BRITISH cops actually nosh to get fat whilst "staking out" some "bad lads". My guess is "Fish'n'chips" or (if not lunchtime) a nice cup of tea and piece of cake...surely not coffee and donuts...it just isn't right...

Restore my faith in the good old fashioned British copper and admit to a cup of hot chocolate and a deep fried Mars bar...come on...



Its a secret. I cannot tell you or I will have to kill you

Alan420

5,618 posts

278 months

Thursday 26th June 2003
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madcop said:

Don said:


madcop said:
DONUTS :




Come on, mad. You're BRITISH! Donuts, "my arse". What do BRITISH cops actually nosh to get fat whilst "staking out" some "bad lads". My guess is "Fish'n'chips" or (if not lunchtime) a nice cup of tea and piece of cake...surely not coffee and donuts...it just isn't right...

Restore my faith in the good old fashioned British copper and admit to a cup of hot chocolate and a deep fried Mars bar...come on...




Its a secret. I cannot tell you or I will have to kill you



Don, make the sacrifice! I don't care if Mad kills you, just as long as he posts the answer publically.

You'll be doing a public service to PH, we could all keep a handy supply of Plodfood ready to keep them sweet when we get pulled!