Whos come from a VX220 or Elise - comaprison?
Whos come from a VX220 or Elise - comaprison?
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da_murphster

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1,053 posts

277 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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Currently deciding between Tuscan and Tamora...leaning towards Tamora...

I reckon some of you must have come from elise type cars (I had a VX220).

Can you describe the difference in driving experience?

Will I miss the VXs cornering?

handling wise is there much difference between Tuscan and Tamora?

Cheers people!

Pharoah

359 posts

299 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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I have had an Elise, Exige (Mark 1) and a 340r and now in a Sagaris nuts.

The Sagaris is very much like a bigger lotus - great handling etc but with the Lotus's you could drive it on its limits and often want more power. With the Sag it is the other way around, a lot of power and you have to be very careful with your right foot. For me it was a natural progression. I had done the Lotus lightweight car thing and got it out of my system. Owning a TVR has been a great change and has been a great experience so far - do it!

Daftlad

3,324 posts

271 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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Pharoah said:
I have had an Elise, Exige (Mark 1) and a 340r and now in a Sagaris nuts.

The Sagaris is very much like a bigger lotus - great handling etc but with the Lotus's you could drive it on its limits and often want more power. With the Sag it is the other way around, a lot of power and you have to be very careful with your right foot. For me it was a natural progression. I had done the Lotus lightweight car thing and got it out of my system. Owning a TVR has been a great change and has been a great experience so far - do it!
Having had a sports racer elise I agree 99%. The part I disagree with was the suggestion that you have to be very careful with your right foot in a Sagaris. Unless its wet or on cold tyres I cant agree. TVR is actually quite forgiving.

Mr John

574 posts

279 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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I came out of Mk1 and Mk2 Elise's and still sometimes miss the driving sensation they gave.
They just lacked the power that the TVR's have in spades. I am now in a T350t.
I think the Tamora will be more nimble than the Tuscan but neither will be as good as your VX.
Having said that they have a noise that no other manufacturer can match look just as good on the exteria 'IMHO' and even better in the interior.
Whatever you decide enjoy.

LaserTam

2,183 posts

249 months

Friday 12th October 2007
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The boot will be much bigger!! You will be able to get something more than a ruck sack in either a Tam or a Tuscan!

kmpowell

3,531 posts

258 months

Friday 12th October 2007
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I went from a T350 into a VX220 turbo, does that count?

purpleperil

1,226 posts

314 months

Friday 12th October 2007
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kmpowell said:
I went from a T350 into a VX220 turbo, does that count?
From T350 into Elise S2 - and what counts is I don't miss the Tiv especially now the Elise is supercharged wink

Tonto

2,983 posts

278 months

Friday 12th October 2007
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Went from a VX220 Turbo to a Tamora.

Performance wise, the VX was much more confidence inspiring and more stable at speed. The Tam is quite a bit quicker but needs more work/concentration when pressing on.

From the view of the driving 'experience' the Tamora is in a different league. The VX was great to drive but it doesn't have a great deal of 'presence' on the road. With the Tam however, each time you drive it its an event!

Tonto

2,983 posts

278 months

Friday 12th October 2007
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Just realised I didn't really answer your questions!

Will you miss the VX's cornering? Well I can't really answer that! Do I miss the VX's handling? Yes I do, but the other attributes of the Tam more than make up for this.

Regarding the Tamora/Tuscan handling question. I've never driven a Tuscan, but most people in the know appear to say that the Tamora handles better. Possibliy due in part to the smaller front and rear overhang.

bogie

17,080 posts

302 months

Friday 12th October 2007
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we have both - a SC Honda S2 Elise and a Sagaris, they are very different cars to drive (the Saggy is my other halfs daily drive)

the Saggy is more comfy long distance, more practical, and makes a much better noise...

my Elise (bearing in mind its 320bhp etc) is just as quick in a straight line but the driving experience is very different.

As for handling - I think the brakes on the modern TVRs - Tuscan, Saggy, T350, Tamora are great - easily better than a standard Elise ( have a lot more rubber on the road helps too)

the steering on the TVRs though (IMO) far too fast - about 1.8 turns lock to lock can make them feel very nervous on a bumpy B road until you get used to it...a good geo and proper tyre pressure (as per Elise/VX) really does make a difference..as does fitting NItron shocks and stiffer springs (on all TVRs except the Saggy, which is a bit too stiff as stock for B road use )

I dont think you will miss the "handling" too much - a Tamora wont feel quite as go kart like, but outright pace, on anything but the twistiest B road and there wont be anything in it - I suspect once youve done some familiarisation in the Tamora you will be just as quick (if not quicker - due to the power)

Both Lotus (and VX) and TVR are both great cars in their own way - dont let the scaremongering put you off enjoying a modern TVR - if you get a well looked after one, as late a model as possible, maybe thats had a rebuild already then you will be fine - just check the oil weekly and thats it....no different to a Lotus/VX really

cheers
bogie

Mr John

574 posts

279 months

Saturday 13th October 2007
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bogie said:
my Elise (bearing in mind its 320bhp etc) bogie
Very impressive !
What is powering it ?
My first one was only 118bhp laugh
The second 120bhp, the latest Toyota powered 189bhp.

da_murphster

Original Poster:

1,053 posts

277 months

Sunday 14th October 2007
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Thanks for the responses - good to see that people have balanced opinions and not pushing how the Tamora is impossible to drive etc. I think it will always be difficult to replace the simplicity of the elise chassis but I think the TVR experience is a scratch I have to itch!!

Raja

8,290 posts

265 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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owned an s2 elise, exige and a t350 rr.

Honest truth if you want to pose the tvr everytime. if you want to drive the exige wins for me.


eburacum

199 posts

240 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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gone from lotus to tvr sagaris,lotus fun to drive crap to own,sagaris fun to own,crap to drive becasue its too fast.!!!!

LJM

241 posts

250 months

Sunday 21st October 2007
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Went from a noble to my T350-Can't believe these 2 cars have ever been compared!! The Noble was so much better!!

Why did I sell it??!!

My advice is to buy a Noble.

Lloyd