Radar speed detector advice please

[blackburnbmw]

Hi to all.

New to the forum but figured someone may be able help: I use an Indago Sat-Nav, with built in fixed camera detection. I'm very pleased with it but I think the time has come to assist it with a "Radar Detector" device for those odd moments when one is not, err, concentrating on the speed limit as well one might!!!

Can anyone recommend a specific unit/model? Any advice would be appreciated, thanks.

[Skier]

On the dashboard of my Range Rover I have a TomTom and Morpheous Geodesy (both GPS based warning devices) and a Beltronics radar detector that I've had since the mid-90s. The radar detector spends 99% of its time switched off as almost all mobile speed traps now use laser based systems and I'm yet to see a detector that genuinely picks that up before it's too late. My advice would be to save your money.

Regards

Skier

[blackburnbmw]

Thanks for that - it's what I was expecting I think. Anyone else got an opinion?

[numberplate man]

hi there

i can supply you a laser jamer the you never need to worry abought them cops again you will still need your gps cam detecor for the fixes cams but as from mobile cam vans and laser guns they wont catch you with this pluged in

[Golyam Dave]

Previously I had a Lidetek LRC100 unit and it was fantastic, saved my licence so many times, I realised how much as shortly after I Sold it on my old car as picked up 3pts grrrrr

I understand however that the police are moving to a 2 pulse system from the old 3 pulse laser guns which will cause older lazer jammer/garage door openers not to work.

There where some test done at an open day at Auto Audio, Park Royal, London and the device on the day operated on both types of guns. May be worth a call as werent hanging about for the test ;-)

Radar is rarely used these days even on the continent as it was easily detected and short range.

Hope this helps

Dave

[peterguk]

numberplate man said:

hi there

i can supply you a laser jamer the you never need to worry abought them cops again you will still need your gps cam detecor for the fixes cams but as from mobile cam vans and laser guns they wont catch you with this pluged in

So how does your jammer differ from all the others? You seem to be suggesting it will jam the laser without plod knowing?

[Golyam Dave]

This subject is a very speculative one,

You have to have a unit mounted on the front of the car vissibly, remember this is all line of sight technology, these require some thought in the mounting process.

I used to have mune above the no plate and below the windscreen, as these are the 2 surfaces usually used for max reflection according to thames valley.

they will get an error message on the gun and it depends how this is interpreted in 3years of use i never got pulled in relation to the jamming function

• Including a minor infringment at mildly over a speed limit accidentaly of course.

Strictly speaking it is illegal to "block or interfere with any police transmition"



(*These words offer no direct relation to the real world or offer any sustainable statement or acceptance of liability)

[Kinky]

numberplate man said:

i can supply you a laser jamer the you never need to worry abought them cops again .... mobile cam vans and laser guns they wont catch you with this pluged in

So how does this work then, in comparison to all the other jammers/garage openers available today?

As I understand it, they simply throw an error to the camera operator, which is logged and then the BiB follow up by impounding your car to search for a jammer. At which point if one is found, then you get done for perverting the course of justice, etc, etc, etc.

I might well be wrong - but that's my understanding. So I'm extremely interested in how you don't throw errors up to the camera operators and therefore "never need to worry abought them cops again".

K

[peterguk]

Kinky said:

So I'm extremely interested in how you don't throw errors up to the camera operators and therefore "never need to worry abought them cops again".

Precisely the point i was trying to make in my earlier post. If it works, i'm sure the supplier will be more than happy to tell us make and model of device.

[rich 36]

Must get me 1ofthem abought time after all

[AJS-]

I really wouldn't bother with radar detection. When I last got caught speedling, quite a serious one, I went out and bought everything - radar detectors, laser jammers, GPS unit. The radar detector was constantly buzzing at everything, so you tended to ignore it.

As far as I know the police don't use hand held radar anymore anyway, just laser, so all it will tell you are which fixed cameras are working. Since I never trust that enough to merrily blast past them if the radar detector remains silent, and the GPS unit tells me where the cameras are anyway, I didn't really use it at all, except to find petrol stations, TV masts and practically anything else taht would cause it to beep.

[cptsideways]

Quite a few of the jammers that were sold did'nt throw up error messages, the ProlaserIII however picked most of up. The LTI-2020 did'nt or only very rarely.


Obviously they are illegal now, so getting caught is a nono

[numberplate man]

the ones that i sell sends back to the lassr gun or cam wat ever speed you set it to first so if your on a motorway you set it to 7o if your on a 60 limt you set it to 60

and no i will not tell you wat make it is it took me 2 years to find this if you want one part with your cash to me and ill get you one

[Mattt]

numberplate man said:

and no i will not tell you wat make it is it took me 2 years to find this if you want one part with your cash to me and ill get you one

Best. Sales. Technique. Ever.

[Kinky]

Quinny said:

Hang on, am I right in thinking, if you set this to 70mph, but are actually doing 105 mph.

If a scamera van points a laser at you, his reading on the gun will be 70mph ??? And he won't get an error reading???

If so I'll have 3 please.

If you can prove that, I'll have 500 please.

OK OK, maybe not 500, but certainly 1.

K

[Mattt]

I can understand a system working on a radar gun - as 'all' you need to do is transmit the corresponding frequency to the speed you want to appear to be travelling back at the source - but for the laser - surely it's just distance/time you can't slow the light down, all you can try to do is overload and give error codes - as most systems currently do?

Or am I missing something from my physics?

[rick355s]

Have a look at the Road Angel plus - very good portable radar detector and probably the most popular!
Normally retails at £249.99 (local Halfrauds) but caraudiosecurity.com are doing it for £199.99 - check the following link:
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_...

Includes 6 months FREE subscription.

[Stu R]

numberplate man said:

the ones that i sell sends back to the lassr gun or cam wat ever speed you set it to first so if your on a motorway you set it to 7o if your on a 60 limt you set it to 60

and no i will not tell you wat make it is it took me 2 years to find this if you want one part with your cash to me and ill get you one

has this sales technique worked before?
Dubious claims at best which in every instance I've seen them (there's a few tat-peddling companies out there who claim to have been able to do this false figure returning stuff) have been disproved, no product information, all wrapped up in a post which looks like a text message. Where do I send the money?

In terms of what's good, Valentine One's are VERY highly rated. Failing that I'd say you can't go wrong with whatever tops snooper's range these days, I used to use an S6 Neo with RLD module (an optional extra) and found it to be cracking, so I suspect whatever they've updated this with will be good.
Road Angels also seem pretty good, but I've never liked the way they were presented in terms of aesthetics and the way they do their job compared to snoopers. Personal preferance I guess.
I'd go Valentine One personally, but make sure you buy from the USA.
That backed up with whatever the sat nav tells you and a bit of common sense and your licence should be more than safe!

[Kinky]

Kinky said:

Quinny said:

Hang on, am I right in thinking, if you set this to 70mph, but are actually doing 105 mph.

If a scamera van points a laser at you, his reading on the gun will be 70mph ??? And he won't get an error reading???

If so I'll have 3 please.

If you can prove that, I'll have 500 please.

OK OK, maybe not 500, but certainly 1.

K

Any news on this? If you can prove this claim, then I would suspect most UK-based PHers would buy one. A captive audience I'm sure you would agree!

K

[peterguk]

Kinky said:

Kinky said:

Quinny said:

Hang on, am I right in thinking, if you set this to 70mph, but are actually doing 105 mph.

If a scamera van points a laser at you, his reading on the gun will be 70mph ??? And he won't get an error reading???

If so I'll have 3 please.

If you can prove that, I'll have 500 please.

OK OK, maybe not 500, but certainly 1.

K

Any news on this? If you can prove this claim, then I would suspect most UK-based PHers would buy one. A captive audience I'm sure you would agree!

K

Hmmm, Mr numberplate_man gone quiet... If i buy one, I wonder if he'll throw in a pair of those plates that hide your number when you get flashed..