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midas029

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184 posts

253 months

Saturday 13th October 2007
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Hedgerley

621 posts

299 months

Sunday 14th October 2007
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I'm surprised Lotus aren't making more of their association with Tesla. This is real ground breaking stuff, never mind the business benefits to Lotus who will be building up to a 1000 sportsters a year at Hethel. They've been doing a lot of the engineering and chassis set up as well, as you'd expect. Check out www.teslamotors.com and look at the coverage they are getting. There's virtually nothing on the Lotus site.

BTW, Tesla have their official EPA figures in. Combined cycle is 245 miles/charge and a 3 hour charging cycle, Oh, and 0-60 in under 4 seconds and a limited top speed of 125mph.

Gooby

9,269 posts

265 months

Sunday 14th October 2007
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The way Lotus are allowed to publicise this will be agreen in fine detail with the working agreements with Tesla. They probably cant make a big thing out of it.

NathanE

539 posts

233 months

Sunday 14th October 2007
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I think it will work best if Lotus remain in the background. If the product takes off and Lotus keep their head down then Tesla hopefully won't feel compelled to just start their own production lines and start designing their own cars etc.

Beachbum

2,610 posts

262 months

Sunday 14th October 2007
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First I've heard of this. Is it available in the US only and when is it likely to be available, if its not already

Hedgerley

621 posts

299 months

Sunday 14th October 2007
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Check out www.teslamotors.com

Lotus have contributed chassis (its based on a tweaked Elise chassis), engineering and development and of course vehicle dymanics expertise. They are also building it at Hethel, potentially up to 1000 a year. Tesla have over 600 confirmed orders already. Its only available in the States at $98,000 and starts shipping in a couple of months.

BTW Nathan, Lotus are only doing the Sportster. Tesla are designing and will be building a 4 door sedan themselves, called Whitestar, aiming for 2010 delivery. Target price is $35,000 and the programme is well advanced. This will be their 'mass market' vehicle at 10,000 units/year I think. The Sportster will still head the range I believe.

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Esprit

6,373 posts

314 months

Sunday 14th October 2007
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I'm actually surprised Tesla aren't making more of the fact that it's closely related to the Lotus Elise (or at least uses Lotus DNA).... immediately that gives the credentials of fun and great handling.

I guess they might be trying to avoid comparison with the Elise (which it basically is under the skin, you can see it's an S2 Elise chassis under there, almost completely unchanged), as the Elise is much cheaper, but other than that, I reckon Tesla could get a good boost by making more of their links with Lotus, which is a respected name in the USA.

NathanE

539 posts

233 months

Sunday 14th October 2007
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Esprit, I think Tesla are determined to make a name for themselves rather than piggybacking on the Lotus brand (kind of like how Proton does) smile

Gooby

9,269 posts

265 months

Sunday 14th October 2007
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Lotus expertise is in nearly every car to a greater or lesser extent. It is part of the heritage of chapman. The guy was the ultimat innovator and developer. You will rarely hear a manufacturer say this. Talking to Tony, he said that more cars than you would ever believe have used Lotus consultancy for thier development and refinement.

NathanE

539 posts

233 months

Sunday 14th October 2007
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Gooby said:
Lotus expertise is in nearly every car to a greater or lesser extent. It is part of the heritage of chapman. The guy was the ultimat innovator and developer. You will rarely hear a manufacturer say this. Talking to Tony, he said that more cars than you would ever believe have used Lotus consultancy for thier development and refinement.
Yup, and sometimes manufacturers don't even realise they're using Lotus tech!

E.g. McLaren boss Ron Dennis the other month saying their car doesn't use ANY intellectual property from ANY other team... LOL. OTOH, the wings, the engine layout, monocoque chassis were all Lotus inspired biggrin

LivinLaVidaLotus

1,626 posts

232 months

Sunday 14th October 2007
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Think one of the stats is that 10% of cars sold in Europe have engines that have been developed/fettled by Lotus.

Gooby

9,269 posts

265 months

Sunday 14th October 2007
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NathanE said:
Gooby said:
Lotus expertise is in nearly every car to a greater or lesser extent. It is part of the heritage of chapman. The guy was the ultimat innovator and developer. You will rarely hear a manufacturer say this. Talking to Tony, he said that more cars than you would ever believe have used Lotus consultancy for thier development and refinement.
Yup, and sometimes manufacturers don't even realise they're using Lotus tech!

E.g. McLaren boss Ron Dennis the other month saying their car doesn't use ANY intellectual property from ANY other team... LOL. OTOH, the wings, the engine layout, monocoque chassis were all Lotus inspired biggrin
WRONG - it wasnt inspired, it was developed by lotus

Scuffers

20,887 posts

305 months

Sunday 14th October 2007
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read the bit about the battery, some 450Kg's of battery, 32Kg's of motor, ??? for the electronics, cooling systems, etc...

that's going to be one heavy car (by Elise standards)...

LivinLaVidaLotus

1,626 posts

232 months

Sunday 14th October 2007
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1200kg AFAIK

Chris49

1,121 posts

232 months

Sunday 14th October 2007
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Its an amazing bit of kit, a friend of my brothers is working on the air con unit for it (some company in Ringwood).

The orders are coming through thick and fast by all acounts and I would of thought it would be a great marketing spin for Lotus.

kambites

71,681 posts

252 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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LivinLaVidaLotus said:
1200kg AFAIK
Yes but that's still not exactly heavy by normal car standards (especially American ones). It's a damned slight more powerful than any stock Elise too.

LivinLaVidaLotus

1,626 posts

232 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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Yep, you'll get no disagreement from me, I think the Tesla is a fantastic bit of kit.

Grinnders

1,558 posts

235 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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The claims are exciting but the proof must be in the pudding !

tomo2006

60 posts

244 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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I would love to see it against a Elise on the track!