If Alonso wins the title !
If Alonso wins the title !
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rev-erend

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21,619 posts

313 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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We could have a real strange thing in F1.

No one wants him - because he is unmanageable and a liability !

I think even Flav / Renault will turn him and the No.1. away !

Hut49

3,544 posts

291 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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Toyota management wouldn't be able to stop themselves - to have No1 on their car is more than they ever dreamed possible (even if it's only for one season)

Racefan_uk

2,935 posts

285 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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Why would Renault turn him away?

flemke

23,481 posts

266 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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rev-erend said:
I think even Flav / Renault will turn him and the No.1. away !
Briatore has already stated publicly that he would love to get Alonso back.
No surprise there - Flav is not exactly a "principle-above-self-interest" kind of guy.

jon-

16,534 posts

245 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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Oh but he's already won...

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.p...

I think it's a bit far fetched to think he'll be without a drive next season.

rev-erend

Original Poster:

21,619 posts

313 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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flemke said:
rev-erend said:
I think even Flav / Renault will turn him and the No.1. away !
Briatore has already stated publicly that he would love to get Alonso back.
No surprise there - Flav is not exactly a "principle-above-self-interest" kind of guy.
Sure he has .. but I think Renault will block it !

rev-erend

Original Poster:

21,619 posts

313 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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Hut49 said:
Toyota management wouldn't be able to stop themselves - to have No1 on their car is more than they ever dreamed possible (even if it's only for one season)
Can you imagine the tantrums - as he moans around in the midfield hehe

Now that would be justice.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

227 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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You'd have to be on crack to think taht any team wouldn't kill to have Alonso next year. With the exception of Ferrari, who already have two top drivers signed up, the world is his Lobster.

Renault would welcome hm back with open arms.His relationship withthe team was superb and everyone loved him there.

I think some people on here have been reading the Sun, or watching ITVs coverage (they're about the same level of interlect) a bit too much. The Hamilton/Alonso row isn't nearly as one sided as most peopl think.

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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CampDavid said:
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Renault would welcome hm back with open arms.His relationship withthe team was superb and everyone loved him there.
No they didn't, trust me on that. There are also some elements of the Alonso/McLaren story that are not public. If they were, your opinion of him might change a little...he has promised to reveal all once the season has ended....I await with baited breath to see whether everything is indeed revealed (which I bet it isn't).




andy_s

19,853 posts

288 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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I don't think personalities will count more than performance to be honest. If he gets a third title I would have thought that any team would be happy to have them on their books, just a few personality problems (percieved) which play second fiddle to driving.

Piglet

6,250 posts

284 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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I agree that I can't see Renault blocking a move to take Alonso back - whether they want to fund what it might cost is perhaps an issue. But a two and potentially three time World Champion? Got to be worth having in anyone's books....

I would also agree that FA's relationships at Renault weren't great - he did a lot of slagging them off in the press and that can't go down well with the boys who have to put the wheels on his car and make it go well.

I'd love to know what you know though Rubystone?!

mattikake

5,115 posts

228 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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rubystone said:
CampDavid said:
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Renault would welcome hm back with open arms.His relationship withthe team was superb and everyone loved him there.
No they didn't, trust me on that. There are also some elements of the Alonso/McLaren story that are not public. If they were, your opinion of him might change a little...he has promised to reveal all once the season has ended....I await with baited breath to see whether everything is indeed revealed (which I bet it isn't).
Go-on then, enlighten us please!

Judging by FA's actions this season I can't see him wanted to reveal all after next weekend.

lord summerisle

8,173 posts

254 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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to go with this: http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3261_2800191...

"So there lies in store a fascinating off-season as we wait to see the fate and future of Fernando Alonso. Because from a negotiation point-of-view Dennis is in a very strong position. The F1 contracts board now rules with a rod of iron and unless there's mutual agreement, Alonso can go nowhere.


Dennis already has one driver capable of winning a World Championship and doesn't necessarily need another of the same skill. He'd like one of course, because F1 team managers are greedy by nature, but it's not going to be like the Renault team of 2007 with two No.2 drivers.


Which means that he's not obliged to make a decision about 2008 until very late, if at all. He has two contracted drivers. If Renault want Alonso to come back (and it was a major blunder to let him go in the first place) then they have to make the running in a very short space of time."

motormania

1,143 posts

282 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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CampDavid said:
I think some people on here have been reading the Sun, or watching ITVs coverage (they're about the same level of interlect) a bit too much. The Hamilton/Alonso row isn't nearly as one sided as most peopl think.
Here here...

I think far too many are commently while wearing ross-tinted glasses...


b11ocx

239 posts

293 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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Surely the best course of action is for Ron to let Alonso go....but very, very late. This would have a destabilising effect on the driver market for a number of teams.

Alonso (and anyone affected by his move) would have virtually no time to test next years race cars, while I am sure Lewis would be more than happy to do most of the testing for McLaren (giving himself defacto Number 1 Status, as the car would be completely designed around him)

Ron holds all of the cards in the contract stakes... if he lets him go, Alonso/Renault need to buy out his contract, if he doesn't he ends up with a (admittedly bolshy) 2 (or 3) time world champion.


CampDavid

9,145 posts

227 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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rubystone said:
CampDavid said:
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Renault would welcome hm back with open arms.His relationship withthe team was superb and everyone loved him there.
No they didn't, trust me on that. There are also some elements of the Alonso/McLaren story that are not public. If they were, your opinion of him might change a little...he has promised to reveal all once the season has ended....I await with baited breath to see whether everything is indeed revealed (which I bet it isn't).
I assure you they did. I was at Renault for the 2005 and 2006 seasons, he was well loved by the guys in the factory and on the race team. There was always a good feeling when he came into the factory, even after his announcement that he was leaving the team. I left before the whole spygate thing really broke out, but up till June most at Enstone was still supporting him for the title.

flemke

23,481 posts

266 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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rubystone said:
There are also some elements of the Alonso/McLaren story that are not public. If they were, your opinion of him might change a little...
It's going to take a one-hundred foot ladder for Alonso to climb out of the hole that he's dug for himself. If he's got facts to reveal that would truly change how people view his behaviour this year, they had better be good!

toymota33

161 posts

252 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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motormania said:
CampDavid said:
I think some people on here have been reading the Sun, or watching ITVs coverage (they're about the same level of interlect) a bit too much. The Hamilton/Alonso row isn't nearly as one sided as most peopl think.
Here here...

I think far too many are commently while wearing ross-tinted glasses...
Do you mean brawn or rose? I think we should be told......... confused

5.0%

166 posts

227 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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flemke said:
It's going to take a one-hundred foot ladder for Alonso to climb out of the hole that he's dug for himself. If he's got facts to reveal that would truly change how people view his behaviour this year, they had better be good!
I don't see that Alonso is in any hole whatsoever.
As the best current F1 driver everyone, except Ferrari, would like to have him.
McLaren would like to have him but seem to have mismanaged the situation in typical Ron fashion.

Alonso is only unpopular with a few brainwashed jingoistic Brits, which in the overall scheme of things counts for nothing.

SplatSpeed

7,491 posts

280 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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flemke said:
It's going to take a one-hundred foot ladder for Alonso to climb out of the hole that he's dug for himself. If he's got facts to reveal that would truly change how people view his behaviour this year, they had better be good!
I don't see that Alonso is in any hole whatsoever.
As the best current F1 driver everyone, except Ferrari, would like to have him.
McLaren would like to have him but seem to have mismanaged the situation in typical Ron fashion.

Alonso is only unpopular with a few brainwashed jingoistic Brits, which in the overall scheme of things counts for nothing.
get back under that bridge

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