5th Gear race against a GSXR100! I Don't get it!
5th Gear race against a GSXR100! I Don't get it!
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makatya

Original Poster:

341 posts

230 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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Is it me but the GSXR1000 should have bottomed this race. The rider was from MSN so should know the crack. What do you guys and gals think?

http://fifthgear.five.tv/jsp/5gmain.jsp?lnk=901&am...

Mak

Hooli

32,278 posts

222 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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the car looks rather good on the corners & the clips they show you of the bike he appears to be pissing about rather than racing.

makatya

Original Poster:

341 posts

230 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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Hooli said:
the car looks rather good on the corners & the clips they show you of the bike he appears to be pissing about rather than racing.
Sure thing but she looked as though she could not handle the car. typical TV.....not true to life. I would have liked to have a crack at it don't know about you....

FourWheelDrift

91,688 posts

306 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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Easy the braking distances are different, the car can brake later (4 tyres and 4 brakes) and the car can go quicker round the corners as a consequence.

It's like the old question of comparing an F1 car with a MotoGP bike around the same circuit, the car will always be faster and by a large margin.

Biker's Nemesis

40,983 posts

230 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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FourWheelDrift said:
Easy the braking distances are different, the car can brake later (4 tyres and 4 brakes) and the car can go quicker round the corners as a consequence.

It's like the old question of comparing an F1 car with a MotoGP bike around the same circuit, the car will always be faster and by a large margin.
Quite a lot of down force on a F1 car though.

I wonder which one the average person would like to try and set a fast lap in/on.

blade7

11,311 posts

238 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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makatya said:
Is it me but the GSXR1000 should have bottomed this race. The rider was from MSN so should know the crack. What do you guys and gals think?

http://fifthgear.five.tv/jsp/5gmain.jsp?lnk=901&am...

Mak
Er would respectfully suggest maybe rider was from MCN.

G Man

4,053 posts

282 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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The circuit that was done at is Angelesy Wales, its basically a go gart circuit, 3rd gear in a Caterham 7 down the straight and 2 most everywhere else, I think the bike did well to get that time. The car had ground effect and downforce was always going to win

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

263 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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I know which would have been quicker down the M1 this morning! (And I made the wrong choice)

makatya

Original Poster:

341 posts

230 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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blade7 said:
makatya said:
Is it me but the GSXR1000 should have bottomed this race. The rider was from MSN so should know the crack. What do you guys and gals think?

http://fifthgear.five.tv/jsp/5gmain.jsp?lnk=901&am...

Mak
Er would respectfully suggest maybe rider was from MCN.
Doh! So I don't ride a motorsycle then!?! lol banghead

Must have been the bottle of wine that did it! But thanks for letting me know I am a nob in open forum! Ha! laugh Oh, and I have just noticed that the topic title was cocked up to...... is there such a bike as a GSXR100? I'll get me coat.getmecoat

Edited by makatya on Tuesday 16th October 08:44

podman

9,007 posts

262 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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FourWheelDrift said:
Easy the braking distances are different, the car can brake later (4 tyres and 4 brakes) and the car can go quicker round the corners as a consequence.

It's like the old question of comparing an F1 car with a MotoGP bike around the same circuit, the car will always be faster and by a large margin.
I believe taht was the only car in the series that was quicker around the track than the GSXR…as we all know cars ultimately have more grip but 95% of sports cars and supercars are too lardy and compromised in their design to take advantage of this superior grip and handling..

The sports bikes we all ride are much. much closer in relation to a MotoGP bike than a F1 car that the average sports car driver could wish to own.

Kev Smith was riding the bike , he’s is a very handy rider.

shot2bits

1,273 posts

250 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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He did fairly well - stock GSXR 1000 on road suspension vs a race prep'd car? The GSXR is configured for the road - change the susp to race focused kit and it would be a little closer I'm sure...

Hooli

32,278 posts

222 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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makatya said:
Hooli said:
the car looks rather good on the corners & the clips they show you of the bike he appears to be pissing about rather than racing.
Sure thing but she looked as though she could not handle the car. typical TV.....not true to life. I would have liked to have a crack at it don't know about you....
very true she doesnt appear to be able to drive does she? mind you powersliding a bike about & wheelieing the straights is hardly trying on a bike, thats pissing about.
id love to have a go yeah, probably in the car though as im just not good/brave enough to do it on a bike.

shot2bits

1,273 posts

250 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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I dislike VBH's driving - I remember the timing boards and her times basically screwing the whole thing up because she was so much slower than Tiff and that arrogant Plato bloke.

anonymous-user

76 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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I've got a couple of fast kit cars and a ZX9, spend a lot of time racing at Sepangc F1 track. Current 1000's will beat any thing but very fast car, if the ridder can ride it, My 270 bhp sylva phoenix (500 bhp a ton) laps almost the same speed as my mates race prepered K5, so tha this is the sort of thing you need to keep up with a WELL ridden bike.

The difference is it is much easier to get a driver to do 90 % of the cars time than it is to get an average bike ridder to get within 90% of a well ridden bike.

I saw this on the TV a few months ago and I think it was filmed at Angaly, a short twisty circuit that favoured the car.

The Pits

4,290 posts

262 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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I agree Anglesey is a twisty boocks of a track. A track with straights on it would have the bike coming out on top.

by the way that westfield would probably beat a £600k ferrari enzo round there. Porsche GT3s and the like are laughably slow on a circuit despite what the owners like to think. The westy would also have had full race springs and brakes, probably slicks too but the bike looked stock.

wassy

632 posts

277 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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My mate has a Megabusa and laps Croft in 1m29s.
You would have to be a pretty good rider to get anywhere near that on a track day however, the car is useless on the road. He describes it as 'truly awful' on anything other than a smooth surface.
Maybe that's one of the reasons no one has gone for a timed lap of the TT circuit in one of these cars.