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LocoBlade

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7,653 posts

285 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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Oh Dear, I can see it all getting messy!

http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_2803815,00.html 

Predicted wet all weekend, the last thing Lewis wants Id imagine.



Edited by LocoBlade on Tuesday 16th October 22:15

belleair302

7,008 posts

236 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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Bugger Brazil, what about some of that rain in Paris on Saturday evening!!!!

chris_w

2,571 posts

288 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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LocoBlade said:
the last thing Lewis wants Id imagine.
Maybe, but he was the class of the field pace-wise at Fuji and Shanghai (before his little pit lane faux pas). Certainly had the upper hand on Alonso which is all that matters.

5.0%

166 posts

227 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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LocoBlade said:
the last thing Lewis wants Id imagine.
Yep, in three wet races this season he has fallen off twice.

Stuismyname

1,706 posts

266 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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5pc said:
LocoBlade said:
the last thing Lewis wants Id imagine.
Yep, in three wet races this season he has fallen off twice.
In three wet races, Lewis and Alonso have each won once. Lewis has 'fallen off twice', but didn't actually damage his car - whereas Alonso royally stuffed his into the wall in Japan.

Don't see why Lewis should be any more worried by a wet weekend than either of the other two contenders?

Incidentally, 5% - are you loneranger and, if so, I claim my £5.

Edited by Stuismyname on Wednesday 17th October 10:32

woof

8,456 posts

306 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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BBC weather doesn't agree

Friday wet
Sat/Sun - hot and sunny
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=0307


coetzeeh

2,889 posts

265 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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woof said:
BBC weather doesn't agree

Friday wet
Sat/Sun - hot and sunny
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=0307
BeeB...., and there is no chance of a hurricane this weekend madam….biggrin

waynepixel

3,978 posts

253 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Should be good fun, if you ask me. It might even give McLaren a second chance to learn when the tyres need changing? shout TYRES

jon-

16,534 posts

245 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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I dreamt last night it was a wet race, Alonso took out Lewis and Kimi took the win and the title.

I wonder what the odds are on that...

flemke

23,481 posts

266 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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jon- said:
I dreamt last night it was a wet race, Alonso took out Lewis and Kimi took the win and the title.
Even Alonso isn't that loony...is he? scratchchin

vojx

271 posts

271 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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flemke said:
jon- said:
I dreamt last night it was a wet race, Alonso took out Lewis and Kimi took the win and the title.
Even Alonso isn't that loony...is he? scratchchin
if the FIA dont, someone has to...

jon-

16,534 posts

245 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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flemke said:
jon- said:
I dreamt last night it was a wet race, Alonso took out Lewis and Kimi took the win and the title.
Even Alonso isn't that loony...is he? scratchchin
I think I dreamt it was a racing incident.

As you said, it would be a brave man for Alonso to try a Schumacher as he's the one with something to lose, being behind Lewis in the championship.

I can however see Alonso either trying an "all or nothing" pass if he's behind Lewis or shutting the door when he probably shouldn't have if he's in front of Lewis.

Part of me is relishing in the thought of a close wheel to wheel F3 style battle between the two, most of me believes if someone tries to make a pass on track it will end in tears as they're both too stubborn. The drivers championship is McLaren's to lose, and poor Ron has no control over that.

LocoBlade

Original Poster:

7,653 posts

285 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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By saying it was the last thing Lewis wanted, I didn't mean to suggest he was at any disadvantage when racing in wet conditions because I think he's as good as anyone.

What I meant is that a wet race is much more unpredictable than a dry one, and given that Lewis is currently leading the points, the last thing he wants is unpredictability. If its dry it may be a less exciting race for the fans, but its much more likely that the 2 Ferraris and 2 Mclarens will finish in the top 4 which in most permutations leaves Lewis with the title. If its wet, anything could happen with accidents, with picking the wrong tyre on a drying track etc so it makes Lewis's job a lot harder IMHO.

toomuchbeer

877 posts

237 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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jon- said:
flemke said:
jon- said:
I dreamt last night it was a wet race, Alonso took out Lewis and Kimi took the win and the title.
Even Alonso isn't that loony...is he? scratchchin
I think I dreamt it was a racing incident.

As you said, it would be a brave man for Alonso to try a Schumacher as he's the one with something to lose, being behind Lewis in the championship.

I can however see Alonso either trying an "all or nothing" pass if he's behind Lewis or shutting the door when he probably shouldn't have if he's in front of Lewis.

Part of me is relishing in the thought of a close wheel to wheel F3 style battle between the two, most of me believes if someone tries to make a pass on track it will end in tears as they're both too stubborn. The drivers championship is McLaren's to lose, and poor Ron has no control over that.
But surely Lewis will have his head about him, and try to stay out of trouble. He's currently wining the title, and finishing 3rd will do it (I think, although I haven't done the calculations).

All Lewis has to do is finish in the points, so Alonsa well disapear into the lead, but if Lewis is a causious distance behind, it's won't matter.

LocoBlade

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7,653 posts

285 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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If Alonso wins and Lewis finishes third, Alonso wins the title on countback of wins.

I think if the Ferraris are significantly quicker than the Mclarens as they were at Spa it could actually be a benefit to Hamilton. That way Alonso wouldnt get a sniff of a victory and Lewis could shadow him in 4th or 5th and win the title even if Raikkonen wins. If they turn out to be evenly matched on this particular circuit as is being suggested, it could all get rather tense if Alonso manages to outqualify Lewis by a couple of places, and even if the Mclarens were siginifcantly quicker than the Ferraris it would only need one mistake / problem for Lewis to drop behind a Ferrari and lose out.

Edited by LocoBlade on Wednesday 17th October 13:50

williamp

20,384 posts

302 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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One things for sure: heidfeld will qualify 5th and finish the race 5th...

woof

8,456 posts

306 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Ferrari have been making noises all week that they don't reckon their chances as they need to use the super soft compound and their chassis doesn't work well with that soft compound




MrKipling43

5,788 posts

245 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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LocoBlade said:
If Alonso wins and Lewis finishes third, Alonso wins the title on countback of wins.
Alonso is four points behind Lewis, so if Alonso wins Hamilton can finish fourth to guarantee the title on points. I think that's right.

jon-

16,534 posts

245 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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MrKipling43 said:
LocoBlade said:
If Alonso wins and Lewis finishes third, Alonso wins the title on countback of wins.
Alonso is four points behind Lewis, so if Alonso wins Hamilton can finish fourth to guarantee the title on points. I think that's right.
Last time I checked points were awarded 10,8,6,5,4,3,2,1, which would mean Lewis would lose the championship if Alonso won and he was anywhere but secon.

toomuchbeer

877 posts

237 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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You are indeed correct.

If Alonso is 1st, Hamilton needs to be 2nd.
If Alonso is 2nd, Hamilton needs to be 3rd.
Alonso finishing below 2nd means LH can finish further behind him than one place.

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