Shooting bb guns at people.
Discussion
Just after a little advice after an incident this morning.
I was walking down my road to the station and a car drove past and someone shot a bb gun out of the window. The level crossing was down and the car slowed for the traffic and I saw the gun take two more shots at people walking down the road.
The car then pulled into the waiting traffic at the crossing.
As I got closer to the car it was a mum on the school run and the guilty party was a young lad sitting in the passenger seat with the window down, gun in hand.
I approached the car and asked the woman if she thought it was a good idea to let someone shoot bb's at people. She just shrugged and said 'I didn't know he was doing it!'
I questioned how she could not know and then she just got lippy telling me to get a life. I said I'll just report it to the police then. So she said to do whatever made me happy, then shouted that I was a tw@t.
Do you reckon it's worth reporting? I got the reg, what's the stance on that sort of thing?
I was walking down my road to the station and a car drove past and someone shot a bb gun out of the window. The level crossing was down and the car slowed for the traffic and I saw the gun take two more shots at people walking down the road.
The car then pulled into the waiting traffic at the crossing.
As I got closer to the car it was a mum on the school run and the guilty party was a young lad sitting in the passenger seat with the window down, gun in hand.
I approached the car and asked the woman if she thought it was a good idea to let someone shoot bb's at people. She just shrugged and said 'I didn't know he was doing it!'
I questioned how she could not know and then she just got lippy telling me to get a life. I said I'll just report it to the police then. So she said to do whatever made me happy, then shouted that I was a tw@t.
Do you reckon it's worth reporting? I got the reg, what's the stance on that sort of thing?
dmitsi said:
Just after a little advice after an incident this morning.
I was walking down my road to the station and a car drove past and someone shot a bb gun out of the window. The level crossing was down and the car slowed for the traffic and I saw the gun take two more shots at people walking down the road.
The car then pulled into the waiting traffic at the crossing.
As I got closer to the car it was a mum on the school run and the guilty party was a young lad sitting in the passenger seat with the window down, gun in hand.
I approached the car and asked the woman if she thought it was a good idea to let someone shoot bb's at people. She just shrugged and said 'I didn't know he was doing it!'
I questioned how she could not know and then she just got lippy telling me to get a life. I said I'll just report it to the police then. So she said to do whatever made me happy, then shouted that I was a tw@t.
Do you reckon it's worth reporting? I got the reg, what's the stance on that sort of thing?
report the stupid bint .........I was walking down my road to the station and a car drove past and someone shot a bb gun out of the window. The level crossing was down and the car slowed for the traffic and I saw the gun take two more shots at people walking down the road.
The car then pulled into the waiting traffic at the crossing.
As I got closer to the car it was a mum on the school run and the guilty party was a young lad sitting in the passenger seat with the window down, gun in hand.
I approached the car and asked the woman if she thought it was a good idea to let someone shoot bb's at people. She just shrugged and said 'I didn't know he was doing it!'
I questioned how she could not know and then she just got lippy telling me to get a life. I said I'll just report it to the police then. So she said to do whatever made me happy, then shouted that I was a tw@t.
Do you reckon it's worth reporting? I got the reg, what's the stance on that sort of thing?
Its Chavs like this that think they can do what they like with out taking resposibility
BB gun?
when I was younger I used to have to dodge air rifle pelets when I played in the woods.
Now of course the riot police jump on anyone playing with a cap gun.
I don't actually think someone firing a bb gun is the worst thing in the world. Bit of harmless fun for the kid.
Of course if it had hit you and stung your ear perhaps then yes a bit of a telling off needed.
However I would report this incident for the following reason.
The mother obviously doesn't give a toss how were kids actions affect others and her 'get a life' attitude is exactly why lots of people are not enjoying theirs.
If my son had fired a bb gun out of my car and a stranger had complained I would have given him a bollocking taken the gun off him and given it back to him only when he promised to stop firing at strangers.
If it was a bb gun or a softair gun then there would have been little chance of injury but this woman needs bringing down a peg definately and if you have to use her errant sons actions to do so then so be it.
when I was younger I used to have to dodge air rifle pelets when I played in the woods.
Now of course the riot police jump on anyone playing with a cap gun.
I don't actually think someone firing a bb gun is the worst thing in the world. Bit of harmless fun for the kid.
Of course if it had hit you and stung your ear perhaps then yes a bit of a telling off needed.
However I would report this incident for the following reason.
The mother obviously doesn't give a toss how were kids actions affect others and her 'get a life' attitude is exactly why lots of people are not enjoying theirs.
If my son had fired a bb gun out of my car and a stranger had complained I would have given him a bollocking taken the gun off him and given it back to him only when he promised to stop firing at strangers.
If it was a bb gun or a softair gun then there would have been little chance of injury but this woman needs bringing down a peg definately and if you have to use her errant sons actions to do so then so be it.
mark69sheer said:
BB gun?
when I was younger I used to have to dodge air rifle pelets when I played in the woods.
Now of course the riot police jump on anyone playing with a cap gun.
I don't actually think someone firing a bb gun is the worst thing in the world. Bit of harmless fun for the kid.
Of course if it had hit you and stung your ear perhaps then yes a bit of a telling off needed.
However I would report this incident for the following reason.
The mother obviously doesn't give a toss how were kids actions affect others and her 'get a life' attitude is exactly why lots of people are not enjoying theirs.
If my son had fired a bb gun out of my car and a stranger had complained I would have given him a bollocking taken the gun off him and given it back to him only when he promised to stop firing at strangers.
If it was a bb gun or a softair gun then there would have been little chance of injury but this woman needs bringing down a peg definately and if you have to use her errant sons actions to do so then so be it.
Are you bonkers?when I was younger I used to have to dodge air rifle pelets when I played in the woods.
Now of course the riot police jump on anyone playing with a cap gun.
I don't actually think someone firing a bb gun is the worst thing in the world. Bit of harmless fun for the kid.
Of course if it had hit you and stung your ear perhaps then yes a bit of a telling off needed.
However I would report this incident for the following reason.
The mother obviously doesn't give a toss how were kids actions affect others and her 'get a life' attitude is exactly why lots of people are not enjoying theirs.
If my son had fired a bb gun out of my car and a stranger had complained I would have given him a bollocking taken the gun off him and given it back to him only when he promised to stop firing at strangers.
If it was a bb gun or a softair gun then there would have been little chance of injury but this woman needs bringing down a peg definately and if you have to use her errant sons actions to do so then so be it.
Tell you what, how about I shoot your wife in the eye with a BB gun, and see if you think it's a bit of harmless fun then.
FFS.
Vesuvius 996 said:
Are you bonkers?
Tell you what, how about I shoot your wife in the eye with a BB gun, and see if you think it's a bit of harmless fun then.
FFS.
Don't be harsh on him. He's too 'risk averse' to have a drive out with a qualified Police driver, but racing on track and dodging air rifle pellets is safe as houses. Tell you what, how about I shoot your wife in the eye with a BB gun, and see if you think it's a bit of harmless fun then.
FFS.
Bonkers indeed.
Read the topic 'stopped by armed police' may be an idea to just act a little dumb and report the car number and 'gun' that would give her some problems judging by what happened to the poor guy in the above topic.
But I must say I support you in approaching the car and questioning her, a pity more people aren’t prepared to get involved
But I must say I support you in approaching the car and questioning her, a pity more people aren’t prepared to get involved
Mark69, I also used to own a bb gun as a kid, but I never shot it in public. As you say it's the mothers attitude that really got me. BB guns aren't harmless, fine if it hits you in the body. But I wouldn't want one in my eye. I've been hit in the head with one, that wasn't too nice either.
Is it best to report this to the local station or can I just do it online?
Is it best to report this to the local station or can I just do it online?
AJS- said:
I don't think BB guns do too much damage.
Really? I see. I suppose that means the operation I had to remove the BB slug from my hand was just a minor bit of damage, along with the permanent loss of proper use of my hand.. AS already said, when these things hit an eyeball, it's a bad day out.dmitsi said:
Mark69, I also used to own a bb gun as a kid, but I never shot it in public. As you say it's the mothers attitude that really got me. BB guns aren't harmless, fine if it hits you in the body. But I wouldn't want one in my eye. I've been hit in the head with one, that wasn't too nice either.
Is it best to report this to the local station or can I just do it online?
Ring the police station. Tell them you saw the kid waving a firearm out of the window and pointing it at people.Is it best to report this to the local station or can I just do it online?
They'll soon pay the stinking chav a visit.
ing God, have any of you been shot by a modern BB gun? They can sting a fair bit depending on power source, and type of pellets.Armed Response Unit's have been scrambled for a lot less!
For those who think BB guns are harmless, perhaps they should read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BB_gun
For those who think BB guns are harmless, perhaps they should read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BB_gun
Edited by oldsoak on Thursday 18th October 10:20
Re BB gun damage
I was assuming here that the potentail for injury was from being hit by a BB pellet from 10 ft or so away since he was firing out of a car window.
Yes a bb gun can cause serious injury at close range.
I was basing my advice on the situation described.
But as allways some people don't read what I write or think about it but jump in with their 10 pence worth.
I was assuming here that the potentail for injury was from being hit by a BB pellet from 10 ft or so away since he was firing out of a car window.
Yes a bb gun can cause serious injury at close range.
I was basing my advice on the situation described.
But as allways some people don't read what I write or think about it but jump in with their 10 pence worth.
mark69sheer said:
Re BB gun damage
I was assuming here that the potentail for injury was from being hit by a BB pellet from 10 ft or so away since he was firing out of a car window.
Yes a bb gun can cause serious injury at close range.
I was basing my advice on the situation described.
But as allways some people don't read what I write or think about it but jump in with their 10 pence worth.
You leave 10 Pence out of this I was assuming here that the potentail for injury was from being hit by a BB pellet from 10 ft or so away since he was firing out of a car window.
Yes a bb gun can cause serious injury at close range.
I was basing my advice on the situation described.
But as allways some people don't read what I write or think about it but jump in with their 10 pence worth.
This is what a recent article in The Times (16 May 2005) had to say about BB guns:
"PLASTIC IMITATIONS THAT CAN BLIND, CRIPPLE OR MAIM"
• BB guns are also known as airsoft guns because although they work on the same basis as airguns, they use a weaker air charge to fire the pellet or ball bearing
• Although BB guns rarely cause more than a bruise, they can blind, cripple or maim in exceptional circumstances
• Most BB guns available in Britain are made by Marui, a Japanese company, and, although made in plastic, are modelled on original weapons and look identical to the real thing
• The precursor to the BB gun was invented in the 1500s, when a weapon was designed using spring-loaded bellows to fire a dart
• BB guns can have a range of up to 25 yards
• Until January 2004, there was no law relating to possession of toy guns, including BBs, in public, but the 2003 Anti-Social Behaviour Act made it an arrestable offence to carry one in public
Because he was in the car it is debatable wether that constitutes carrying it in public. However he could be charged with assault I guess but then a pellet would had to have struck you.
There would definately be an offence relating to firing it in public and indeed his age may come into the equasion as its illegal for under 17s to posses an airgun. Under that age adult supervision is required from the age of 14 and adult supervision was clearly not exercised here.
If the OP had sais air pistol then that would have been more serious and air rifle definately in need of harsh action.
"PLASTIC IMITATIONS THAT CAN BLIND, CRIPPLE OR MAIM"
• BB guns are also known as airsoft guns because although they work on the same basis as airguns, they use a weaker air charge to fire the pellet or ball bearing
• Although BB guns rarely cause more than a bruise, they can blind, cripple or maim in exceptional circumstances
• Most BB guns available in Britain are made by Marui, a Japanese company, and, although made in plastic, are modelled on original weapons and look identical to the real thing
• The precursor to the BB gun was invented in the 1500s, when a weapon was designed using spring-loaded bellows to fire a dart
• BB guns can have a range of up to 25 yards
• Until January 2004, there was no law relating to possession of toy guns, including BBs, in public, but the 2003 Anti-Social Behaviour Act made it an arrestable offence to carry one in public
Because he was in the car it is debatable wether that constitutes carrying it in public. However he could be charged with assault I guess but then a pellet would had to have struck you.
There would definately be an offence relating to firing it in public and indeed his age may come into the equasion as its illegal for under 17s to posses an airgun. Under that age adult supervision is required from the age of 14 and adult supervision was clearly not exercised here.
If the OP had sais air pistol then that would have been more serious and air rifle definately in need of harsh action.
JasandJules.
From a little plastic pellet? Or a proper air gun?
Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong thing, but when I was a kid, we had some crappy little thing that fired little orange pellets and my brothers and I used to quite regularly shoot each other, aiming for eyes and ears was good as it stang a bit but didn't do any damage. Maybe we just had a crappy gun?
Basically like a spud gun wtihout the mess.
From a little plastic pellet? Or a proper air gun?
Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong thing, but when I was a kid, we had some crappy little thing that fired little orange pellets and my brothers and I used to quite regularly shoot each other, aiming for eyes and ears was good as it stang a bit but didn't do any damage. Maybe we just had a crappy gun?
Basically like a spud gun wtihout the mess.
Shit yeah, those are way more powerful than that thing I had.
Here's how crap it was, it finally broke when I fired it once, for my dog who would try and fetch the pellets (not at my dog!) I pulled the trigger and it clicked, then just fell apart, straight down the middle, and the BBs just fell out in a heap, with a few springs and stuff. My dog just stood there looking puzzled as only a springer spaniel can.
Here's how crap it was, it finally broke when I fired it once, for my dog who would try and fetch the pellets (not at my dog!) I pulled the trigger and it clicked, then just fell apart, straight down the middle, and the BBs just fell out in a heap, with a few springs and stuff. My dog just stood there looking puzzled as only a springer spaniel can.
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