Expansion of the Congestion Zone
Discussion
Chaps,
I have just read in Top Gear Magazine that Commie Ken is trying to extend the Congestion zone to basically everywhere inside the M25... from next Feb.
Is this true? It also says that band G cars will take a right shoeing...
This country moves ever closer to hell in its very own New Labour handbasket.
JakeR
I have just read in Top Gear Magazine that Commie Ken is trying to extend the Congestion zone to basically everywhere inside the M25... from next Feb.
Is this true? It also says that band G cars will take a right shoeing...
This country moves ever closer to hell in its very own New Labour handbasket.
JakeR
I think TGM might be confusing The Greater London Low Emission Zone For HGV's with the Congestion Charge?
At least I hope it is!
At least I hope it is!
I have heard of this move to extend the charging zone, but was told it was for London boroughs, therefore even if you live within the M25 you may not suffer. If it does happen though I will be looking for another job as I live in Sunbury, but commute to Wandsworth via Kingston each day, and couldn't afford to get to work. As for public transport, PAH! either three buses or two buses and a train, means I would have to leave home about 6.00 to get to work for 8.30 and then I would have to stand on the bus as their useless seats are too close together to get my legs in. 
AJS- said:
Stupid thing is, this will be totally self defeating as everyone who currently travels into the congestion charge zone for work will be able to drive in again so long as they live inside the new charging zone (ie within the M25)
I don't think anyone will be exempt this time.There have already been a good number of threads on this blatent socialist buggery of Londoners, masking as simple enviro-babble daylight robbery - and the threads you will find on your search contain a great deal more reliable and detailed information and reference material than Top Gear magazine, which appears to have confused you.
There is the congestion zone - which was in Feb 07 extended against the clear weight of public opinion, shortly after it had been racked up from £5 to £8 per day (in part, I believe, because the money raised from penalties was insufficient to cover the enormous costs).
The latest proposal, which will become reality as soon as Ken can manage it, is to increase the 'congestion' tax on 'high emitting' family estates and, let's not forget, the overwhelming traffic of Ferrari's and Zondas clogging the streets of central London, to £25 for cars emitting in excess of, I think, 225g/km CO2 (I say "think", because the detail of the proposals seems to have disappeared from the tfl website).
It is not about congestion.
Then there is the "low emission zone", which is to be brought in for the whole of greater london, with no exemptions, campaigning against lorries and scout troop minibuses that are obviously the main threat to human civilisation as we know it.
In keeping with Ken's strategy for the congestion tax however, I will be expecting to be paying a "low emission" tax in the not too distant future on anything upwards of a push bike.
Your only hope, if you have a vote in London, is to vote for Mr Johnson next year.
There is the congestion zone - which was in Feb 07 extended against the clear weight of public opinion, shortly after it had been racked up from £5 to £8 per day (in part, I believe, because the money raised from penalties was insufficient to cover the enormous costs).
The latest proposal, which will become reality as soon as Ken can manage it, is to increase the 'congestion' tax on 'high emitting' family estates and, let's not forget, the overwhelming traffic of Ferrari's and Zondas clogging the streets of central London, to £25 for cars emitting in excess of, I think, 225g/km CO2 (I say "think", because the detail of the proposals seems to have disappeared from the tfl website).
It is not about congestion.
Then there is the "low emission zone", which is to be brought in for the whole of greater london, with no exemptions, campaigning against lorries and scout troop minibuses that are obviously the main threat to human civilisation as we know it.
In keeping with Ken's strategy for the congestion tax however, I will be expecting to be paying a "low emission" tax in the not too distant future on anything upwards of a push bike.
Your only hope, if you have a vote in London, is to vote for Mr Johnson next year.
shadowninja said:
AJS- said:
Stupid thing is, this will be totally self defeating as everyone who currently travels into the congestion charge zone for work will be able to drive in again so long as they live inside the new charging zone (ie within the M25)
I don't think anyone will be exempt this time.a) Take the hit, then spend another few quid travelling on tubes & buses for my other journeys
b) Make the most of my £8 and spend all day driving everywhere
That's one matter when you add a hundred thousand or so in Kensignton, but a whole other matter when you start adding millions in the more distant residential boroughs.
HiRich said:
shadowninja said:
AJS- said:
Stupid thing is, this will be totally self defeating as everyone who currently travels into the congestion charge zone for work will be able to drive in again so long as they live inside the new charging zone (ie within the M25)
I don't think anyone will be exempt this time.a) Take the hit, then spend another few quid travelling on tubes & buses for my other journeys
b) Make the most of my £8 and spend all day driving everywhere
That's one matter when you add a hundred thousand or so in Kensignton, but a whole other matter when you start adding millions in the more distant residential boroughs.
Wouldn't surprise me. It's the usual goverment trick of bringing in a new revenue generating scheme under a false pretence based on whatever is the current buzz topic. Ensure that it isn't met with election losing objection (hopefully?), then systematically squeeze and squeeze, push and push, for every single penny you can rape from the public forever more.
It's easy as the worst that will happen will be some people moaning at each other on forums on teh internet ... Not like it's France where there would be riots and burning animals as far as the politicians could see afterall.
Yes, we are all guilty of doing nothing, but I can't honestly think how this can be successfully opposed?
It's easy as the worst that will happen will be some people moaning at each other on forums on teh internet ... Not like it's France where there would be riots and burning animals as far as the politicians could see afterall.
Yes, we are all guilty of doing nothing, but I can't honestly think how this can be successfully opposed?
chris watton said:
They should abolish road tax and have toll roads, what they're doing is simple greed - no road tax in the rest of Europe, just tolls, simple and fair.
Every road is already a toll road. You pay at the pumps.Edited by mat205125 on Thursday 25th October 16:14
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