okay to drive??
okay to drive??
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NicBowman

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785 posts

268 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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Hi, tale of ongoing hassle, lucky ther car is so beautiful, or it would be in the bin!

I have a new 4.6 V8 Developments engine, just fitted, done 200 miles. It has started making a whining noise when hot, okay when cold. It sounds like a waterpump bearing, but that is new and removing the fan belt does not stop the noise.
Now, the correct answer is call V8 Developments, but having had the car off the road the last 12 weeks I would like to drive it whilst it is not raining, and had planned a trip tomorrow.

Anyone have any ideas? Should I leave it in the garage?

Perhaps I should clarify, noise really prevalent at tickover, quite loud, but not at higher revs (can't hear it then??).

Ta


Nic

Edited by NicBowman on Saturday 20th October 18:00

clive f

7,259 posts

263 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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not really sure, but could it be anything to do with the coolant system having an air lock, causing the noise when it is hot?
can you pin point where the noise seems like its coming from.

GreenV8S

31,021 posts

314 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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Try turning the alternator and other ancillaries by hand (with the belt off, obviously) and see whether any of them feel rough or have any play in the bearings. Also while you're there check for small stones caught in the fan belt, this is more likely to produce a tap rather than a whirring noise but you never know.

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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Can't see it being any of those if he has had the fan belt off...

Stick your ear to a big screwdriver... & see if you can locate where its coming from. Might just be a pesky followerwink

Dave

NicBowman

Original Poster:

785 posts

268 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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Definately a consistent noise, like a note almost, no a tap or tick. Fan belt off, the same noise, so not an ancilliary. I wondered if it might be oil going through the relief valve?

Nic

OscarT

758 posts

231 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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Turn the stereo up and rally on.

ray_von

3,041 posts

282 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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OscarT said:
Turn the stereo up and rally on.
Nice one jigsrolleyes

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Saturday 20th October 2007
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NicBowman said:
I wondered if it might be oil going through the relief valve?
I don't think the relief valve would be popping at tickover, its more likely at revs.. ie the opposite of what I thought you were describing.

Dave

griffter

4,143 posts

285 months

Sunday 21st October 2007
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I'm probably wrong - but it's not just air passing through the bleed screw on the throttle body?
If this is still set to 4.0 / 4.3 setting it might be a little too tight for the 4.6. Would only occur when hot as the stepper is wide(r) open at cold idle.
Easy to check - just wind it out a little.

Edited by griffter on Monday 22 October 07:34

Slacey

1,113 posts

244 months

Monday 22nd October 2007
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griffter said:
I'm probably wrong - but it's not just air passing through the bleed screw on the throttle body?
If this is still set to 4.0 / 4.3 setting it might be a little too tight for the 4.6. Would only occur when hot as the stepper is wide(r) open at cold idle.
Easy to check - just wind it out a little.

Edited by griffter on Monday 22 October 07:34
My guess too - mine leaks a little all the time unless screwed right down, which obviously then makes the car run as rough as arseholes. If it is that, it's certainly driveable and not a major worry.

Else

795 posts

268 months

Monday 22nd October 2007
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I've got exactly the same noise but i would describe it as a whirring and whining noise. It comes and goes a little but only when hot and it does sound exactly like a dodgy bearing. I've tried the same things to narrow it down like removing the belt (serp) i also suspected the clutch release bearing but it isn't in contact with the clutch fingers at rest, (i checked through the inspection hatch)and the sound doesn't change when the clutch is depressed. I have also adjusted the air bleed, no change.

I have also tried to trace the noise using a length of small diameter pipe, with one end in my ear like a stethoscope but i just can't find where it's coming from. I have done about 5000 miles with this noise present and it hasn't really changed. I was hoping it would either go away or get worse so that it would identify itself.

I'm pulling the engine out soon for some further mods, i will be inspecting cam bearings, oil pump bearings and anything else i can think of just to be on the safe side.

Would be nice to get to the bottom of this one for peace of mind so keep the suggestions coming in.

Andy

350Matt

3,907 posts

309 months

Monday 22nd October 2007
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Power steering pump low on fluid?

also worth trying a teaspoon of brake fluid in the coolant as this lubricates the water pump seal

Matt

Else

795 posts

268 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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Did you ever get to the bottom of this Nic?

Barreti

6,689 posts

267 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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Does the brake fluid in coolant trick apply to using 5.1 fluid because thats all I've got.
I've got a bit of a whine from somewhere, nothing I'm too worried about but if I can help with a bit of routine stuff like this I might as well give it a go.

I take it you just stick a teaspoonfull in the swirl tank?

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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Barreti said:
I've got a bit of a whine from somewhere..
angel

Johno

8,593 posts

312 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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Barreti said:
I've got a bit of a whine from somewhere
I'll tell Deb's when I see her in a couple of weeks you said that on a public forum hehe


Barreti

6,689 posts

267 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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Johno said:
Barreti said:
I've got a bit of a whine from somewhere
I'll tell Deb's when I see her in a couple of weeks you said that on a public forum hehe
idea
byebye Deb getmecoat
ears the sound of silence
hehe

Edited by Barreti on Friday 2nd November 00:52