Odds on Hamilton never winning the title ?

[lazyitus]

Keep hearing people in the world of motor racing that Hamilton will win the title in the future.

So, what odds on him never achieving this ?

Lets assume he didn't do it next season. The longer he goes without doing it, the more and more intense the pressure would be. OK - so he appears super cool but he's young and has only raced a dozen or so GP at present.

Assuming he stays at Mclaren next year, what if they begin to be off the pace and are no longer front runners.

I wonder what odds you'd get ?

[Wanta996(Gotta)]

He is odds on to win it next year with the Skybet, Coral and Ladbrokes have Kimi with Hamilton 2nd.It seems Alonso is no longer viewed as No.1.

Edited by Wanta996(Gotta) on Tuesday 23 October 17:06

[Gruffy]

I think Kimi will find extra motivation for next season and I'd say he is my early call to take the title next season. That said, the lack of TC for 2008 will shake things up and will likely help the 'rookies' marginally more than the long-standing drivers.

[RossiT]

Next year will be very exciting, no TC, Kimi the WDC, Alonso maybe back at Renault with a point to prove, if Honda get there act together and build Jenson a good car he will hopefully be further up the grid, I'm sure BMW will move forward-they seem a good solid team.

Roll on March 08.

[Number 7]

RossiT said:

no TC,
Roll on March 08.

Except for the Scuderia of course.
And even if the FIA decide that Ferrari are not allowed to use it after all, how the hell is an organisation that can't even decide on a simple temperature measurement going to police it?

7.

[curlie467]

He may never do it. Biaggi never won the motogp and everyone thought he would!

[stephen300o]

It will be harder for him to win next year, his car will most likely not be as reliable, Kimi will have the car set to his liking earlier in the year, and Hamiltons agressive style with no traction contol will eat tyres.

[Conian]

curlie467 said:

He may never do it. Biaggi never won the motogp and everyone thought he would!

No we didn't ... we thought he would wobble around behind Rossi and complain a lot. Bless us, we were right

[Adrian W]

I think the playstation boys will have problems next year, sitting in the kittie litter wondering what happened!

[anonymous-user]

Conian said:

curlie467 said:

He may never do it. Biaggi never won the motogp and everyone thought he would!

No we didn't ... we thought he would wobble around behind Rossi and complain a lot. Bless us, we were right

After finishing second in his first sseason, Biaggi looked like a good bet to win it in the following seasons, Rossi only entered the series 2 seasons after Max did.

Biaggi's big mistake was leaving Honda after the 98 season, had he stayed then surely he would've beat Alex Criville the following season?

[Conian]

JS99 said:

Conian said:

curlie467 said:

He may never do it. Biaggi never won the motogp and everyone thought he would!

No we didn't ... we thought he would wobble around behind Rossi and complain a lot. Bless us, we were right

After finishing second in his first sseason, Biaggi looked like a good bet to win it in the following seasons, Rossi only entered the series 2 seasons after Max did.

Biaggi's big mistake was leaving Honda after the 98 season, had he stayed then surely he would've beat Alex Criville the following season?

My statement was a general poke at Max rather than a historical record But I still say that Max was never really seen to win it, he'd been on 250s too long, tho 1999 was his best title shot following Doohan's departure.

But, getting back on point! It seems likely that LH is gonna be at Mclaren for years, if they drop the ball and dont make a top flight car, delaying LH's chances of a championship then it would get harder and harder for him.

Not quite to Button levels, but there is potential for it to go wrong if McLaren dont produce a top car for the next 2 years minimum. Wow there will be some fights here if that happens.

[clonmult]

RossiT said:

Next year will be very exciting, no TC, Kimi the WDC, Alonso maybe back at Renault with a point to prove, if Honda get there act together and build Jenson a good car he will hopefully be further up the grid, I'm sure BMW will move forward-they seem a good solid team.

Roll on March 08.

Having the season as more than a two-team/horse race would be fantastic for the sport. One of the things about this season (apart from the politics) that has got to me has been the sequence of the drivers in the championship most of the way up to the last race.

McLaren, Ferrari, BMW, Renault, Williams, Red Bull.

In many ways, its just been a procession.

[Wanta996(Gotta)]

Interesting Spin by Stephen 300o - "his car will most likely not be as reliable, Kimi will have the car set to his liking earlier in the year, and Hamiltons agressive style with no traction contol will eat tyres"

What if - his car will be as/more reliable? Kimi will still not have his car set to his liking? And Hamilton tones down his aggresive style?

I find it laughbale that some people on the Forum cant get into there heads that Lewis was the best driver out there this season and lost it due to stupidity/bad luck in the last two races. It would be interesting to hear Kimis thoughts on Lewis and if he regards this years win as LUCKY which to be honest i do. Lewis out-quailified him and was ahead of him in China until tyres gave way, he out-qualified him in Brazil and was let down by his bad start? Kimi is completely over-rated and had a stop-start season and Lewis will have him as he had Alonso(2 times world champion) this year in the same car may i add in his back pocket.

Also bare in mind that Lewis had never driven some of these tracks before? I think Kimi,Alonso and co should in fact be embarrassed with how close the rookie ran them this year.

Edited by Wanta996(Gotta) on Wednesday 24th October 13:15

[RobM77]

Totally at the mercy of which car he's in. His long term relationship with Mclaren will probably mean he'll stay there for a while, but then we've got to assume Mclaren will stay on top. I'd say there's some chance of Lewis never winning it if Raikkonen stays at Ferrari and they dominate next season - Lewis could then move to Ferrari and find out that Mclaren dominate the season after that All manner of things could happen! I'd back him for next year's champion though.

[motormania]

[quote=Wanta996(Gotta)]Interesting Spin by Stephen 300o - "his car will most likely not be as reliable, Kimi will have the car set to his liking earlier in the year, and Hamiltons agressive style with no traction contol will eat tyres"

What if - his car will be as/more reliable? Kimi will still not have his car set to his liking? And Hamilton tones down his aggresive style?

I find it laughbale that some people on the Forum cant get into there heads that Lewis was the best driver out there this season and lost it due to stupidity/bad luck in the last two races. It would be interesting to hear Kimis thoughts on Lewis and if he regards his win as LUCKY which to be honest i do. Lewis out quilified him and was ahead of him in China until tyres gave way, he outqualified him in Brazil and was let down by his bad start? Kimi is completely over-rated and Lewis will have him as he had Alonso this year in his back pocket.

[/quote]

Slightly bias hey?

Kimi wins 6 GPs while Lewis wins only 4. Therefore Lewis must win the championship right???

NOT.

Lewis is good, bloody good at times, but why won't you accept that the experience of Kimi gave him the title and not just luck.

If it was luck, you could say that Lewis was lucky on several occasions this season...

[clonmult]

motormania said:

Kimi wins 6 GPs while Lewis wins only 4. Therefore Lewis must win the championship right???

NOT.

Lewis is good, bloody good at times, but why won't you accept that the experience of Kimi gave him the title and not just luck.

If it was luck, you could say that Lewis was lucky on several occasions this season...

And its not just down to the number of wins either, is it.

Everyone is getting incredibly selective. Sure, theres a huge number of ifs and buts and maybes. At the end of the day, a huge number of factors have come into it, and its useless speculation to say "what if this happened". it didn't.

On that token, it wasn't necessarily his experience that won Kimi the championship. If it were down to experience, you'd have had DC or some other driver out there winning the championship. It was a combination of factors - the reliability of his (and others cars), driver ability, team strategies, FIA loving ferrari .....

[stephen300o]

[quote=Wanta996(Gotta)]Interesting Spin by Stephen 300o - "his car will most likely not be as reliable, Kimi will have the car set to his liking earlier in the year, and Hamiltons agressive style with no traction contol will eat tyres"

What if - his car will be as/more reliable? Kimi will still not have his car set to his liking? And Hamilton tones down his aggresive style?

I find it laughbale that some people on the Forum cant get into there heads that Lewis was the best driver out there this season and lost it due to stupidity/bad luck in the last two races. It would be interesting to hear Kimis thoughts on Lewis and if he regards this years win as LUCKY which to be honest i do. Lewis out-quailified him and was ahead of him in China until tyres gave way, he out-qualified him in Brazil and was let down by his bad start? Kimi is completely over-rated and had a stop-start season and Lewis will have him as he had Alonso(2 times world champion) this year in the same car may i add in his back pocket.

Also bare in mind that Lewis had never driven some of these tracks before? I think Kimi,Alonso and co should in fact be embarrassed with how close the rookie ran them this year.

Edited by Wanta996(Gotta) on Wednesday 24th October 13:15

[/quote]

You forgeting that Kimi's car boke down a couple of times?
Not sure if Mclaren can keep up the incredible reliability they had this year.

[Baldylocks]

stephen300o said:

Hamiltons agressive style with no traction contol will eat tyres.

On the flipside he may be better able to deal with a car that wants to break away under power than his rivals (after all the sideways action he's had this season). Only time will tell.

Personally I will be very surprised if Hamilton never wins a title.

I can't wait for next season!!