RE: Can't Start, Won't Start
Wednesday 24th October 2007
C'mo, c'mon, c'mon...If you imagine a car not starting on a cold, damp morning you would probably think old British Leyland or a temperamental Italian classic.
Can't Start, Won't Start
New cars most likely to have problems starting after four years
C'mo, c'mon, c'mon...
But a new survey has revealed that after four years the most common problem for new cars is ignition problems.
Fuel and ignition systems, along with axle and suspension faults, have the highest rate of failure as the car emerges from the protection of a manufacturer’s three-year warranty, it is claimed.
Braking systems become a problem after six years,with the chance of failure rising from 1.3%in year four to a high of 3.2%, or as much as 1 in 10 for some manufacturers.
According to Warranty Direct, a vehicle’s cooling system is nearly twice as likely to need work in year eight compared to year four.
Discussion
Better take out an extended Warranty with Warranty Direct then. Better safe than sorry. I'm glad they brought this to my attention. Oooh and did you see the sexy hand model holding the key, I'd like that sexy hand model to hold my key too... I will imagine that whilst sending them my money so I have added piece of mind. And with the money I spent on them I now have none left to spend on Champagne to woo the sexy hand model. I will have to rely on my warranty to bed her instead.
The plip fobs on my clio seem to have a lifespan like this, they last about 3 yrs and then start to fail. I'm on my third set now and i bet they start pissing about in another 18months or so.
Parts are not designed to last these days, infact i expect a lot of manufacturers put more effort into making parts fail after 3, 4 or 5 yrs than making them last.
You can't win, you either pay for a warranty or for repairs.
Parts are not designed to last these days, infact i expect a lot of manufacturers put more effort into making parts fail after 3, 4 or 5 yrs than making them last.
You can't win, you either pay for a warranty or for repairs.
march said:
So is the moral to buy a car older than eight years old that's had all the work done then ?
No, the moral is to run proper cars that weren't built to a (stupidly low) price and didn't have their genes diluted by fcuking accountants.Go on, get rid of your silly £500-a-month-on-HP blandmobile and drop a few grand on a nice old BMW E28 M535i.
Or a Mercedes-Benz W124 500E.
Or perhaps even a nice Porsche 911/964...
Edited by 190Evoluzione on Wednesday 24th October 15:06
This is so stupid. Remember, they're talking about what's the most common problem OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THERE ARE. So even if there are fewer problems overall than there were ten years ago, SOMETHING has to be the most common of those that remain. It's just a matter of counting to see what that particular thing is. It's like now that they've controlled, say, the black plague, cancer is a bigger killer. That doesn't mean that cancer is more dangerous, it's that the plague is less so. In fact, cancer is less dangerous now, but compared to the plague, more people are dying from it.
So for automobiles, if fuel system problems decrease by 30 percent but ignition system problems by only 15 percent, the relative incidence of ignition system will increase. It's a bigger slice of a smaller pie.
This is simply how people mess with statistics.
So for automobiles, if fuel system problems decrease by 30 percent but ignition system problems by only 15 percent, the relative incidence of ignition system will increase. It's a bigger slice of a smaller pie.
This is simply how people mess with statistics.
The most common cause of breakdowns apart from immobiliser problems is lack of, or poor maintenance.
So perhaps this survey shows us that most cars will last about 4 years before they show obvious signs of poor maintenance... quite a credit to the cars really!!
Not quite such a credit to the garages that take the money for servicing them (and don't do the work), or the owners who can't be a***d to take them in in the first place..
So perhaps this survey shows us that most cars will last about 4 years before they show obvious signs of poor maintenance... quite a credit to the cars really!!
Not quite such a credit to the garages that take the money for servicing them (and don't do the work), or the owners who can't be a***d to take them in in the first place..
190Evoluzione said:
march said:
So is the moral to buy a car older than eight years old that's had all the work done then ?
No, the moral is to run proper cars that weren't built to a (stupidly low) price and didn't have their genes diluted by fcuking accountants.Go on, get rid of your silly £500-a-month-on-HP blandmobile and drop a few grand on a nice old BMW E28 M535i.
Or a Mercedes-Benz W124 500E.
Or perhaps even a nice Porsche 911/964...
Edited by 190Evoluzione on Wednesday 24th October 15:06
190Evoluzione said:
march said:
So is the moral to buy a car older than eight years old that's had all the work done then ?
No, the moral is to run proper cars that weren't built to a (stupidly low) price and didn't have their genes diluted by fcuking accountants.Go on, get rid of your silly £500-a-month-on-HP blandmobile and drop a few grand on a nice old BMW E28 M535i.
Or a Mercedes-Benz W124 500E.
Or perhaps even a nice Porsche 911/964...
Edited by 190Evoluzione on Wednesday 24th October 15:06
190Evoluzione said:
march said:
So is the moral to buy a car older than eight years old that's had all the work done then ?
No, the moral is to run proper cars that weren't built to a (stupidly low) price and didn't have their genes diluted by fcuking accountants.Go on, get rid of your silly £500-a-month-on-HP blandmobile and drop a few grand on a nice old BMW E28 M535i.
Or a Mercedes-Benz W124 500E.
Or perhaps even a nice Porsche 911/964...
Edited by 190Evoluzione on Wednesday 24th October 15:06
Ya forgot to mention the venerable 944 cough
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