Harnesses Wanted

[Kev946]

Hi all,

Looking to buy some Harnesses. I have the Sports pack so would like the wrap around type to suit the standard harness bar.

I was thinking of these Schroth Racing which seem well liked, (see below). Is MSAR the best place to source these and any alternatives. I've seen the Saftey Devides and these look like they could be re-badged Schroth items.

See http://www.msar-safety.com/index.php?main_page=pro...

Also what's the views on exisiting belts. Can I legally remove them and how easy is it?

Thanks
K

[Yee haa!]

they are the real deal, i purchased from them so can confirm that. You can (it is mot legal, esp, if you choose the lotus oem with the red button) remove the inertia belts if you wish (i did) but it all depends on personal preference and if you can live with wearing a harness every time.

[Kev946]

Thanks.

If I decide to keep the standard belts do I need longer bolts or anything else?

Also, what's the Lotus OEM?

Are the std belts easy to remove.

Sorry for all the questions

Edited by Kev946 on Wednesday 24th October 14:47

[RichQuy]

Recently fitted Hangar111 harness bar with Luke wrap around harnesses myself, did away with the standard belts as just too much going on with very little space.

Was relatively easy to remove the standard reels - on mine (04 111s), had to remove the rear plastic bulkhead, disconnect speakers, disconnect interior light and then simply un-do the single large allen key which holds the reel in place.

To fit the bar itself is tricky due to space involved. Had to remove some of the sound insulation foam to allow room for the M10 bolt (used to connect the bar to the roll over hoop) to be tightened.

Obviously all this had to be done with both seats removed.

Then it is simply a question of putting it all back together!

[S1mon.]

I have these fitted to my car. Removing them at the weekend and will be selling them

[S Works]

Get the Schroth ones or Willans Silverstones.

[Kev946]

Just realised a problem. My dash being 2008 spec has a bleeper and light if the standard belt is undone. Anyone know how to get round this. I would like to take the complete standard belts out.

Thanks

[Mark82]

Just hard wire the connector - on the S1 elise the connector is easy to see under the driver seat...

[Kev946]

My worry is that it my be linked to the Airbag, i.e. only seats with belts fastened are activated.

[crackthatoff]

Kev946 said:

My worry is that it my be linked to the Airbag, i.e. only seats with belts fastened are activated.

A what ?????????????????

[Kev946]

crackthatoff said:

Kev946 said:

My worry is that it my be linked to the Airbag, i.e. only seats with belts fastened are activated.

A what ?????????????????

Looke at my wifes RR manual and the seat belts are linked to the SRS and pre tensioners. Hopefully the Lotus is much cruder and just a light/beeper on the dash.

[bjc388]

Kev946 said:

My worry is that it my be linked to the Airbag, i.e. only seats with belts fastened are activated.

Hmmmm .. if what you say is correct then some might say that it would be wise to get on the phone with Lotus and the insurers to see what your proposed mod might do and the consequences that might follow!!!

[purdy84]

S Works said:

Get the Schroth ones or Willans Silverstones.

Do you know which Schroth harness is the one to go for?

[Kev946]

OK update. I've spoken to Lotus Technical and there is only one sensor on the drivers buckle. To take out it's just a case of bridging the 2 wires. There is no link with the air bags at all.

As for Schroth belts. There are 2 available. The twist buckle and push button buckle. The twist is the best and cheaper but does not have the Euro type approval so may not be street legal, although Old Bill is unlikely to know regulations and the MOT is pretty unclear. Malcolm at MSAR said he had never heard of a either belt failing an MOT.

BTW the Lotus supplied belt is a push button.

See links below

http://www.schrothshop.de/product_info.php?product...

http://www.schrothshop.de/product_info.php?product...

http://www.msar-safety.com/index.php?main_page=pro...

Edited by Kev946 on Saturday 3rd November 10:58

[purdy84]

Cheers for the update, think im going to get a set of these...

Kev946 said:

http://www.schrothshop.de/product_info.php?product...

Forgot to ask, How easy are these to fit and remove???

Edited by purdy84 on Saturday 3rd November 11:11

[Kev946]

Not done it yet, but supposed to be straigh forward. Seats have to come out to take the exisiting belts out. If you are leaving the belts in you need one of these kits.

http://www.msar-safety.com/index.php?main_page=pro...