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toad_oftoadhall

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Wednesday 25th June 2003
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These guys are giving a talk at my local Rospa meeting:

www.rapidtraining.co.uk

The guy doing the talk is an Accident Investigator.

Should be interesting.

whoozit

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289 months

Wednesday 25th June 2003
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I've been out with them twice, and had absolutely excellent road training as well as a whale of a time.

madcop

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283 months

Wednesday 25th June 2003
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toad_oftoadhall said:
These guys are giving a talk at my local Rospa meeting:

www.rapidtraining.co.uk

The guy doing the talk is an Accident Investigator.

Should be interesting.


Ah, that will be Gary Baldwin then,
Toad, I am closer to you than you may think
You would do well to listen to Gary, he is very experienced and no fool. He also likes to make progress and is a superb rider and car driver.

Send him my regards

toad_oftoadhall

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936 posts

271 months

Wednesday 25th June 2003
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madcop said:



toad_oftoadhall said:
These guys are giving a talk at my local Rospa meeting:

www.rapidtraining.co.uk

The guy doing the talk is an Accident Investigator.

Should be interesting.





Ah, that will be Gary Baldwin then,
Toad, I am closer to you than you may think
You would do well to listen to Gary, he is very experienced and no fool. He also likes to make progress and is a superb rider and car driver.

Send him my regards




I would send my regards but I'm guessing you don't have Mad Cop on your passport!

Yes, Mr. Baldwin has an excellent reputation with the other guys. I'm flying back from Germany and have 3 hours to get from Heathrow to Lewes so I may be late but I will try to attend.

Needless to say I will listen. I may not like getting petty FPNs but individual Traff Rozzers have much to teach and this guys CV looks better than average!


madcop said:

Toad, I am closer to you than you may think



Look, what happened between me and that consenting Iguana is my own business and not a police matter!!! ;-)

Incidently what is your hunting ground? Have you pulled a PHer yet?

If you ever see a green Divvie with mud over the plate go easy yeah...

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madcop

6,649 posts

283 months

Wednesday 25th June 2003
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toad_oftoadhall said:


I would send my regards but I'm guessing you don't have Mad Cop on your passport!




I don't but if you tell him that it is Graham Owens old crew mate, he will know! (not the bird either ) I have crewed with him myself on occasion,
thankfully not the time he entered Penn Street Village in an SD1 Rover backwards at about 80 for some gardening Shhhhhhh dont tell him I mentioned it

Seriously, he is excellent road and track and had sponsorship for a works ride a few years ago. He knows his stuff and will tell you everything you want to know about accident causes etc. Ask him the 1/3rd speed lie



toad-oftoadhall said:

Needless to say I will listen. I may not like getting petty FPNs but individual Traff Rozzers have much to teach and this guys CV looks better than average!




Who does like it, including traffic rozzers themselves, it does happen!




toad oftoadhall said:



Look, what happened between me and that consenting Iguana is my own business and not a police matter!!! ;-)




toad oftoadhall said:

Incidently what is your hunting ground? Have you pulled a PHer yet?



Mainly Berkshire, but go into Bucks a lot and Oxon not quite so much. Have a free hand to go anywhere within reason!
Have I pulled a PHr? What sort of a question is that ? (she pulled me, honest your worships!)

Yes I have but they didn't know who I was! I didn't tell them either.


[quote=toad oftoadhall]
If you ever see a green Divvie with mud over the plate go easy yeah...




You might end up with a dirty shirt sleeve!



>> Edited by madcop on Wednesday 25th June 11:48

toad_oftoadhall

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>> Edited by toad_oftoadhall on Friday 27th June 09:23

toad_oftoadhall

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Friday 27th June 2003
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Well I went. [1] It was excellent.

Gary is a great speaker; I expect he's have been entertaining whatever they spoke about. Ditto his colleague.

The race pedegree of these blokes is excellent too.

I didn't ask any questions because all the things I wanted to know were speeding related and he answered them in his talk.

He was practically Toad-like in his views. CHeck out the following.

All quotes paraphrased and not gaurenteed accurate.

"When all the rapist bastards and murderering bastards are in jail; then we can go to work on Dark VIsor Wearing Bastards."

"I've never known anyone hurt by a small plate."

"When doing someone for speeding it's probably the first and last contact that person will have with the police." (Message he was trying to convey: Don't prosecute people at 85mph on clear dual carriageway; he clearly understood how traffic enforcement has turned the public against the police...)

The newsletter they give out is an excellent read too.

Think I offended his mate. I ride with Full Beam despite all my mates claims that this is wrong. I asked and he said it was an offence. I suggested that it was a tricky one to prove after I'd switched to dip. It was a thoughtless thing to say & I don't think he liked it.

His advice was to ride on dip. (Although he didn't offer and new angle on the debate.) It's a strange situation. He expertise is beyone question. YEt I *still* think I'll ignore his advice because a) I'm convinced less people pull out on me on full than dip. (and I do try both) b) I see bikes on full in my mirrors *much* better than those on dip.

Feels a bit weird not taking the advice though. It's a bit like Tiger Woods telling you how to improve your golf and you deliberately ignoring it...

All in all a great bloke who lives in the real world. For me 125 quid is better spent on a weeks sailing than a day's biking but I'd recomend these guys to anyone.


[1] Late due to British Airways, National Express Coaches and a blow out on the A23.[2]
[2] Had to use the wheel nut wrench to hammer the f**king nut clamping the spare wheel in it's well due to stiffness. It simply never got loose. It must have needed 30 turns all being hammered from a tight angle at 1/8 of a turn a time.