Wots the latest on the targa ?
Wots the latest on the targa ?
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Halcyon Daze

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69 posts

255 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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Some months back there were various threads about the production of a replacement or modified targa panel and seemingly a number of potential options being investigated. Anyone made any progress they would like to share ?

Andy

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

240 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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Halcyon Daze said:
Some months back there were various threads about the production of a replacement or modified targa panel and seemingly a number of potential options being investigated. Anyone made any progress they would like to share ?

Andy
I'm still working on mine. The guys at Surface and Design have been busy with 'proper work' but have been preparing my roof panel in their spare time. I saw it last weekend and it's now ready for them to make a mould off it.
When we have a mould we'll be able to produce new fullsize roof panels.
What we intend to do first is to create a panel cut into two but widthways. That will allow the panel(s) to be taken off the car and just laid on top of anything in the boot without needing to take anything out, it should also be easier to create a watertight seal as we will be squeezing the two panels together in the same way as the fullsize panel.

The full collapsable roof with a canvas insert will be looked at later.

Halcyon Daze

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69 posts

255 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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The reason I ask is that the previous owner gave me a folding targa. This appears to be a normal targa cut in half front to back and then hinged to fold upwards (as viewed in position on the car). Its obviously every bit as heavy as the normal targa and when folded doesn't appear any easier to stow in the boot, at least not if you're going to have anything else in the boot anyway.

I was tempted to take the hinges off, have both halves recovered and just use it like that but I'm not sure if the pressure from the rear folding section would be sufficient to keep it all in place (side to side more than front to back which I pressume won't change). Its waterproofing would also be questionable I guess but probably adequate for my needs. I presume that I could have some clips installed on the underside to provide some longitudinal tension between the two halves.

Any thoughts anyone ?

Andy.

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

240 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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Sounds a very cumbersome solution and as you say must be massively thick when folded.

I think you're right, with all those cuts it would be quite likely that it could be sucked up at speed. To avoid that mine would include locator pins inside the roof to keep the front and rear panels rigid and in place.

The other problem I assume is that the fabric has worn where it all hinges?

I'd try and fix the panels together to create what I'm trying to do rather than have it in quarters.

Seasider

12,728 posts

279 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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V8 GRF said:
What we intend to do first is to create a panel cut into two but widthways. That will allow the panel(s) to be taken off the car and just laid on top of anything in the boot without needing to take anything out,

My centre line cut panels lay on top of a full boot biggrin



V8 GRF said:
it should also be easier to create a watertight seal as we will be squeezing the two panels together in the same way as the fullsize panel.
& Doesn't leak wink

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

240 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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Seasider said:
V8 GRF said:
What we intend to do first is to create a panel cut into two but widthways. That will allow the panel(s) to be taken off the car and just laid on top of anything in the boot without needing to take anything out,

My centre line cut panels lay on top of a full boot biggrin
I've only seen MooseHunter's and he always stacks his down in the boot so I assumed it wouldn't fit, I've not got to the cutting stage yet biggrin

Seasider said:
V8 GRF said:
it should also be easier to create a watertight seal as we will be squeezing the two panels together in the same way as the fullsize panel.
& Doesn't leak wink
Wasn't suggesting it would leak just thought it would be easier biggrin

Barreti

6,689 posts

267 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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There are a couple of people still playing with the idea.
I'm very interested in your roof though Halcyon Daze, the hinges intrigue me and I'm yet to put saw to roof but will defo do it this winter one way or another.

If you PM me I'll happily have an exchange of ideas with you.

Halcyon Daze

Original Poster:

69 posts

255 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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Sorry, I have confused, its only two halves, not quarters.

The idea of locating pins on the underside, particularly if they could lock in place, or a combo of locating pins and a toggle catch might do it. scratchchin

Halcyon Daze

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69 posts

255 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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Barreti said:
There are a couple of people still playing with the idea.
I'm very interested in your roof though Halcyon Daze, the hinges intrigue me and I'm yet to put saw to roof but will defo do it this winter one way or another.

If you PM me I'll happily have an exchange of ideas with you.
Will do. I 'll get some pictures togther on here first to show what I'm talking about then I'll drop you note.

Cheers.

Seasider

12,728 posts

279 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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Halcyon Daze said:
Sorry, I have confused, its only two halves, not quarters.

The idea of locating pins on the underside, particularly if they could lock in place, or a combo of locating pins and a toggle catch might do it. scratchchin
With a front to rear cut you dont need any extra locating pins.

Moose put some catches on his, i haven't, it stays in place at good wink speed biggrin

Halcyon Daze

Original Poster:

69 posts

255 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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Seasider said:
Halcyon Daze said:
Sorry, I have confused, its only two halves, not quarters.

The idea of locating pins on the underside, particularly if they could lock in place, or a combo of locating pins and a toggle catch might do it. scratchchin
With a front to rear cut you dont need any extra locating pins.

Moose put some catches on his, i haven't, it stays in place at good wink speed biggrin
Seasider, can the halves be stowed anywhere other than the boot, ie the passenger footwell or behind the seat ? I'm presuming not.

Andy.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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Seasider said:
Halcyon Daze said:
Sorry, I have confused, its only two halves, not quarters.

The idea of locating pins on the underside, particularly if they could lock in place, or a combo of locating pins and a toggle catch might do it. scratchchin
With a front to rear cut you dont need any extra locating pins.

Moose put some catches on his, i haven't, it stays in place at good wink speed biggrin
Any top tips on doing it? Might have a go at mine as I'm replacing the roof as soon as the new one arrives.

(never ask me to wash your rear screen if you don't want me to put my hand clean through it paperbag)

Seasider

12,728 posts

279 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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Halcyon Daze said:
Seasider, can the halves be stowed anywhere other than the boot, ie the passenger footwell or behind the seat ? I'm presuming not.

Andy.
Haven't tried but would think not,
also not really necessary when they take up such little room in the boot smile

BliarOut said:
Any top tips on doing it?
Not for you biggrin


HTH

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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That's verging on being downright nasty Del wink

Seasider

12,728 posts

279 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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BliarOut said:
That's verging on being downright nasty Del wink
biggrin

Johno

8,593 posts

312 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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Theres a couple out there currently under construction. Mine won't be finished until after I've installed the new ECU.

However the other one should be done very soon . . .

Amazing what you can do with some balsa wood and Fosters smile

Halcyon Daze

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69 posts

255 months

Sunday 18th November 2007
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Barreti YHM biggrin Apologies for the delay in getting back. rolleyes

Andy

Barreti

6,689 posts

267 months

Tuesday 20th November 2007
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No problem Andy. I forwarded your mail on to the friend mentioned who is also busy defacing a Griffith roof wink

I'm looking for one now to try my ideas out on and I'll let you - and anyone else looking in here - know how I get on if I ever find one.

Halcyon Daze

Original Poster:

69 posts

255 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Seasider said:
Halcyon Daze said:
Sorry, I have confused, its only two halves, not quarters.

The idea of locating pins on the underside, particularly if they could lock in place, or a combo of locating pins and a toggle catch might do it. scratchchin
With a front to rear cut you dont need any extra locating pins.

Moose put some catches on his, i haven't, it stays in place at good wink speed biggrin
Sorry to drag this back from the grave but the organising for this years Le Mans trip is underway and I've now got a spare targa panel to disect. All this is putting me in mind to get on with the job.

Seasider, can you advise how you went about the cutting of your roof ? The best advice I have to date was a diamond blade in an angle grinder but I'm not sure I trust myself to cut it straight even if its marked. rolleyes

I'm presuming that the tolerance is low if anything like a vaguely water resistant seal is to be created at the join. Cheers.

Andy.

Simpo Two

92,829 posts

295 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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If somebody posted some photos of their work it might save a lot of confusion!