Wots the latest on the targa ?
Discussion
Halcyon Daze said:
Some months back there were various threads about the production of a replacement or modified targa panel and seemingly a number of potential options being investigated. Anyone made any progress they would like to share ?
Andy
I'm still working on mine. The guys at Surface and Design have been busy with 'proper work' but have been preparing my roof panel in their spare time. I saw it last weekend and it's now ready for them to make a mould off it.Andy
When we have a mould we'll be able to produce new fullsize roof panels.
What we intend to do first is to create a panel cut into two but widthways. That will allow the panel(s) to be taken off the car and just laid on top of anything in the boot without needing to take anything out, it should also be easier to create a watertight seal as we will be squeezing the two panels together in the same way as the fullsize panel.
The full collapsable roof with a canvas insert will be looked at later.
The reason I ask is that the previous owner gave me a folding targa. This appears to be a normal targa cut in half front to back and then hinged to fold upwards (as viewed in position on the car). Its obviously every bit as heavy as the normal targa and when folded doesn't appear any easier to stow in the boot, at least not if you're going to have anything else in the boot anyway.
I was tempted to take the hinges off, have both halves recovered and just use it like that but I'm not sure if the pressure from the rear folding section would be sufficient to keep it all in place (side to side more than front to back which I pressume won't change). Its waterproofing would also be questionable I guess but probably adequate for my needs. I presume that I could have some clips installed on the underside to provide some longitudinal tension between the two halves.
Any thoughts anyone ?
Andy.
I was tempted to take the hinges off, have both halves recovered and just use it like that but I'm not sure if the pressure from the rear folding section would be sufficient to keep it all in place (side to side more than front to back which I pressume won't change). Its waterproofing would also be questionable I guess but probably adequate for my needs. I presume that I could have some clips installed on the underside to provide some longitudinal tension between the two halves.
Any thoughts anyone ?
Andy.
Sounds a very cumbersome solution and as you say must be massively thick when folded.
I think you're right, with all those cuts it would be quite likely that it could be sucked up at speed. To avoid that mine would include locator pins inside the roof to keep the front and rear panels rigid and in place.
The other problem I assume is that the fabric has worn where it all hinges?
I'd try and fix the panels together to create what I'm trying to do rather than have it in quarters.
I think you're right, with all those cuts it would be quite likely that it could be sucked up at speed. To avoid that mine would include locator pins inside the roof to keep the front and rear panels rigid and in place.
The other problem I assume is that the fabric has worn where it all hinges?
I'd try and fix the panels together to create what I'm trying to do rather than have it in quarters.
V8 GRF said:
What we intend to do first is to create a panel cut into two but widthways. That will allow the panel(s) to be taken off the car and just laid on top of anything in the boot without needing to take anything out,
My centre line cut panels lay on top of a full boot

V8 GRF said:
it should also be easier to create a watertight seal as we will be squeezing the two panels together in the same way as the fullsize panel.
& Doesn't leak 
Seasider said:
V8 GRF said:
What we intend to do first is to create a panel cut into two but widthways. That will allow the panel(s) to be taken off the car and just laid on top of anything in the boot without needing to take anything out,
My centre line cut panels lay on top of a full boot


Seasider said:
V8 GRF said:
it should also be easier to create a watertight seal as we will be squeezing the two panels together in the same way as the fullsize panel.
& Doesn't leak 

Barreti said:
There are a couple of people still playing with the idea.
I'm very interested in your roof though Halcyon Daze, the hinges intrigue me and I'm yet to put saw to roof but will defo do it this winter one way or another.
If you PM me I'll happily have an exchange of ideas with you.
Will do. I 'll get some pictures togther on here first to show what I'm talking about then I'll drop you note.I'm very interested in your roof though Halcyon Daze, the hinges intrigue me and I'm yet to put saw to roof but will defo do it this winter one way or another.
If you PM me I'll happily have an exchange of ideas with you.
Cheers.
Halcyon Daze said:
Sorry, I have confused, its only two halves, not quarters.
The idea of locating pins on the underside, particularly if they could lock in place, or a combo of locating pins and a toggle catch might do it.
With a front to rear cut you dont need any extra locating pins.The idea of locating pins on the underside, particularly if they could lock in place, or a combo of locating pins and a toggle catch might do it.

Moose put some catches on his, i haven't, it stays in place at good
speed 
Seasider said:
Halcyon Daze said:
Sorry, I have confused, its only two halves, not quarters.
The idea of locating pins on the underside, particularly if they could lock in place, or a combo of locating pins and a toggle catch might do it.
With a front to rear cut you dont need any extra locating pins.The idea of locating pins on the underside, particularly if they could lock in place, or a combo of locating pins and a toggle catch might do it.

Moose put some catches on his, i haven't, it stays in place at good
speed 
Andy.
Seasider said:
Halcyon Daze said:
Sorry, I have confused, its only two halves, not quarters.
The idea of locating pins on the underside, particularly if they could lock in place, or a combo of locating pins and a toggle catch might do it.
With a front to rear cut you dont need any extra locating pins.The idea of locating pins on the underside, particularly if they could lock in place, or a combo of locating pins and a toggle catch might do it.

Moose put some catches on his, i haven't, it stays in place at good
speed 
(never ask me to wash your rear screen if you don't want me to put my hand clean through it
)Halcyon Daze said:
Seasider, can the halves be stowed anywhere other than the boot, ie the passenger footwell or behind the seat ? I'm presuming not.
Andy.
Haven't tried but would think not,Andy.
also not really necessary when they take up such little room in the boot

BliarOut said:
Any top tips on doing it?
Not for you 
HTH
Seasider said:
Halcyon Daze said:
Sorry, I have confused, its only two halves, not quarters.
The idea of locating pins on the underside, particularly if they could lock in place, or a combo of locating pins and a toggle catch might do it.
With a front to rear cut you dont need any extra locating pins.The idea of locating pins on the underside, particularly if they could lock in place, or a combo of locating pins and a toggle catch might do it.

Moose put some catches on his, i haven't, it stays in place at good
speed 
Seasider, can you advise how you went about the cutting of your roof ? The best advice I have to date was a diamond blade in an angle grinder but I'm not sure I trust myself to cut it straight even if its marked.

I'm presuming that the tolerance is low if anything like a vaguely water resistant seal is to be created at the join. Cheers.
Andy.
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