WHAT IS IT WORTH? -a fully stamped TVR service book?

[copilot]

I have a 1999 4.5 Cerbera with a fully "TVR" stamped service book. I paid £14,500 and the car is fine. Will it rise in value?...No. Will it fall in value?...YES. But is it really worth going out of the way and to pay a premium to continue having the service book stamped by a TVR service agent (if there indeed are any other than TVR Power)?

What do we do as responsible TVR owners?

I would like to keep mine in the best condition that I can possibly afford. But when it comes to it, what does that "stamp" really mean?

We all would like a fully stamped service book, but is it worth it?

Do you necessarily recieve the best service?

Is it worth the extra money?

Is it extra money?

Mine is due a so called "big service" @ 35,000 miles (or thereabouts). Whats involved? Could a good independent really deal with the intrecacies of the 4.5 V8?

When it comes down to it what is that dealer stamp really worth when your car is only worth 10k - 15k???

[micky g]

I'd rather see a good independants stamp anyday of the week.

For the big service I'd recommend Automedon. They're at Blackpool, but worth it in both the level of service and price.

(By the way, the lads there are from the original Cerbera build team so they know about as much as anybody about the car)!

Edited by micky g on Friday 2nd November 22:12

[Gazzab]

you know the answer!

[copilot]

Whats involved in this big service?
Valves re-ground etc etc
Does anyone know where there is a detailed service checklist for the 4.5 AJP?

[JensenA]

copilot said:

Whats involved in this big service?
Valves re-ground etc etc
Does anyone know where there is a detailed service checklist for the 4.5 AJP?

Check Byker28i's profile - Dave has loads of useful stuff, including the service schedules.

[micky g]

The big service is every 12000 miles according to my manual and Automedon lists the items as follows: -

12000 Mile Service Schedule>>

carry out preliminary road test
centralize the steering wheel (if necessary)
change engine oil + filter
change spark plugs
check air cleaner element (cerbera every service)
check all suspension fixings for security
check condition of steering joints, rack gaiters, ball joints and wishbones bushes
check cooling fans operation
check cooling system for leaks, hoses for security
check crank sensor for debris (cerbera only)
check distributor cap, ignition leads and low tension wires for deterioration
check drive belts condition, adjust/change if required
check engine breather/hoses for security and condition
check engine sensor connections for corrosion (cerbera only)
check exhaust system condition
check for fluid leaks from hydraulic pipes and unions (pas only)
check handbrake operation and lever security, adjust + lubricate if required
check headlight allignment and auxillary lights if fitted
check master cylinder and under bonnet grommets sealed, reseal if required
check operation of all electrical components (inc. alarm & a/con)
check seat belts operation & mountings
check security of ex manifold bolts (rover engines only)
check security of rocker covers (rover engines only)
check the condition of the engine + gearbox mounting rubbers
check throttles and linkage operation and lubricate where possible
check tyres for correct spec, and damage, road wheels for damage, refit to original position
check/adjust cambers front + rear
check/adjust engine setting on computer with engine at operating temperature (cerbera)
check/adjust throttle stop
check/adjust tracking front + rear
check/adjust tyre pressures (inc spare)
check/adjust/lubricate all hinges, doors boot and bonnet locks/catches
check/adjuster ignition timing + co, with engine at operating temperature (griffith & chimaera)
check/top up brake fluid
check/top up clutch fluid
check/top up diff oil
check/top up gearbox oil
check/top up pas fluid (where applicable)
check/top up windscreen washers and check wiper blade condition
inspect brake pads for wear, callipers for leaks, discs for condition, flexible hoses condition
remove all road wheels and apply anti-seize compound to hubs + wheel studs
remove front + rear pads + check for deterioration
road test the vehicle
valet vehicle + stamp service book
visually check complete underside of vehicle for faults/abnormalities

£567.23 fixed price inc VAT at Automedon

[nemasis]

mick for the 12000 mile service where it says "check" for all fluids it is REPLACE,engine oil,gear oil,diff oil,brake fluid,clutch fluid,and also 12000 mile service tappet adjustment is required.dave

[ohyer]

or do you just charge for setting valve clearances but not do the work?

[micky g]

nemasis said:

mick for the 12000 mile service where it says "check" for all fluids it is REPLACE,engine oil,gear oil,diff oil,brake fluid,clutch fluid,and also 12000 mile service tappet adjustment is required.dave

Mines due in for a short service so will be e mailing in the next week or two!

[Sam Gamgee]

ohyer said:

or do you just charge for setting valve clearances but not do the work?

...and why do you say this, out of interest?

[nemasis]

Sam Gamgee said:

ohyer said:

or do you just charge for setting valve clearances but not do the work?

...and why do you say this, out of interest?

cant wait for this one

[caduceus]

Has anyone from London/Herts/Essex way ever driven up to Automedon, just for a service?

Mine is due....

[copilot]

I don't suppose this price of £567 includes re-shimming if required? Approximately how often does the AJP 4.5 need re-shimming?

Edited by copilot on Sunday 4th November 16:06

[copilot]

It looks like the majority of TVR owners do not place much value on keeping a TVR stamped service book then?

[micky g]

copilot said:

It looks like the majority of TVR owners do not place much value on keeping a TVR stamped service book then?

It makes sense to take your car where you believe it gets the best attention and has the most knowledgeable and experienced person work on it.

My experiences with TVR main dealers suggests they've let their apprentices loose on my car.

If I was buying a Cerbera I would much rather see Automedons or Trackcars, (ex Joospeed), stamps in the service book.

All imho of course...

[retrobution]

ohyer said:

or do you just charge for setting valve clearances but not do the work?

Thats quite a cutting statement for your first post! Maybe instead of hiding behind your keyboard, you might like to give Automedon a call (Ask the bill payers permission first flower) and explain what you mean. Maybe your on the wrong forum or maybe your full of shit! Cant wait to hear from you Baz

[copilot]

JensenA said:

Check Byker28i's profile - Dave has loads of useful stuff, including the service schedules.

Am currently having probs downloading the service schedule, but my recolection of this is that it was for the 4.2, but I will try again later.

Does anyone have a service schedule for the 4.5 AJP?

[TVRwhoa]

Torque RVT's website gives a good list of servicing schedules

http://www.torquervt.co.uk/serviceschedule.html

Good service there too !

I'm not 100% but I'm not sure there are specific service schedules for the AJP 4.5 compared to say the 4.2 etc - but I'd be prepared to be wrong !!

[southendpier]

caduceus said:

Has anyone from London/Herts/Essex way ever driven up to Automedon, just for a service?

Mine is due....

Nope - Leven Tech in Basildon for me.

[caduceus]

southendpier said:

caduceus said:

Has anyone from London/Herts/Essex way ever driven up to Automedon, just for a service?

Mine is due....

Nope - Leven Tech in Basildon for me.

And Castle race Engines about the same distance Northwards. Decisions decisions..