Gallardo 04 vs 06
Discussion
No real difference to drive, but there is about 2,500 component upgrades between the 04 model to 06 model.
Lamborghini saw fit to offer most of them as a retro fit warranty service to earlier cars.
Also, the clutch in an 06 car is of a better spec than an original one in an 04 car.
Ruttboy.
Lamborghini saw fit to offer most of them as a retro fit warranty service to earlier cars.
Also, the clutch in an 06 car is of a better spec than an original one in an 04 car.
Ruttboy.
ruttboy said:
No real difference to drive, but there is about 2,500 component upgrades between the 04 model to 06 model.
Lamborghini saw fit to offer most of them as a retro fit warranty service to earlier cars.
Also, the clutch in an 06 car is of a better spec than an original one in an 04 car.
Ruttboy.
??Lamborghini saw fit to offer most of them as a retro fit warranty service to earlier cars.
Also, the clutch in an 06 car is of a better spec than an original one in an 04 car.
Ruttboy.
So the gearbox ratios that are completely different on 1st, 2nd make no difference?
The completely revised suspesion geometry?
The differences are significant with regard to driving.
I've no experience with the 04 vs 06, but these differences are things you will notice when driving one back to back.
Having had both I think there is a masive differnce.
I had my late 04 car for 18 months and I've swapped to a new Spyder about 3 months ago.
To me the engine revs better, is smoother sounds totaly different.
The ride seems much better (I understand they changed the damper manufacturers)
All IMHO obviously
I had my late 04 car for 18 months and I've swapped to a new Spyder about 3 months ago.
To me the engine revs better, is smoother sounds totaly different.
The ride seems much better (I understand they changed the damper manufacturers)
All IMHO obviously
patience said:
But your profile describes you as a test driver. Unless you have owned all the cars you mention can I assume that your experience of driving them is low speed movement?
Doesn't matter what I say now then, I'm not going to live this one down.You are correct in stating that I am, and have been a test driver for all the cars that I have stated.
However, seeing as it is now two years since I worked for Lamborghini, and have mainly been with Bentley, Koenigsegg, Spyker and Ascari for the last two years, my advice on the Gallardo was more aimed at the quality side of it.
As anyone who I have helped on here will testify, my knowledge and information is up there with the best of them, and you are correct in stating that there is a marked difference in the drive of the two cars, but not as much as the difference in the component upgrades which is of far more significance to a prospective owner, as a 06 car is going to be of better quality.
And don't worry, should you ever sit beside me in a car, you won't doubt my abilities as a test driver.
I just don't think that it is entirely appropriate to rag the hell out of a customers car after it has been in for work, so the differences between the first two gears in balls out acceleration may not be as obvious to me as an owner who is willing to pay for the upkeep of his car.
Cheers,
Ruttboy.
So what did you test drive then if not customers cars? Apologies if this sounds like I am spoiling for an argument as I am certainly not. I only ask this as you are obviously quite a spokeperson for sports brands on here. So I guess like anyone if I am to take your advice in the future I am wondering what to base it on.
Patience,
Don't worry, not taking your comments the wrong way.
Most of what I test drive are customer's cars, about 5-600 miles a week doing sign off road tests and diagnostic checks, but it depends as to what you are checking for as to how fast you drive them. A technician in the passenger seat with a lap top can usually tell you what is going on far better than the seat of your pants.
For example, if you replace the clutch on an E-Gear equipped Lamborghini, it takes 45 minutes for the clutch to settle down before you can give it any stick, other wise it won't last, and those 45 minutes must all be sensible.
On the other hand, if you are testing the rear spoiler on a Murcielago, then high speeds are needed.
As I've said, if a customer is going to be paying £4,500 + for a clutch on said Lamborghini, then you don't want to ruin it by thrashing their pride and joy.
Sales cars are a different story, as you want to ensure that all faults are found before you offer the car for sale. But once they are tested, they don't need driving again, so you may only do a few proper performance road tests where you can identify differences in model years physically.
But you must also remember that I am in an extremely fortunate position, where I am trusted with supercars on a daily basis, and I not foolish enough to risk my lively hood and position by being stupid in a customer's car, not when I am confident to know most of what I am talking about through experience of learning from people who can drive far better than I can.
Should I ever be fortunate enough to deal with your pride and joy, you will see what I mean.
Ruttboy.
Don't worry, not taking your comments the wrong way.
Most of what I test drive are customer's cars, about 5-600 miles a week doing sign off road tests and diagnostic checks, but it depends as to what you are checking for as to how fast you drive them. A technician in the passenger seat with a lap top can usually tell you what is going on far better than the seat of your pants.
For example, if you replace the clutch on an E-Gear equipped Lamborghini, it takes 45 minutes for the clutch to settle down before you can give it any stick, other wise it won't last, and those 45 minutes must all be sensible.
On the other hand, if you are testing the rear spoiler on a Murcielago, then high speeds are needed.
As I've said, if a customer is going to be paying £4,500 + for a clutch on said Lamborghini, then you don't want to ruin it by thrashing their pride and joy.
Sales cars are a different story, as you want to ensure that all faults are found before you offer the car for sale. But once they are tested, they don't need driving again, so you may only do a few proper performance road tests where you can identify differences in model years physically.
But you must also remember that I am in an extremely fortunate position, where I am trusted with supercars on a daily basis, and I not foolish enough to risk my lively hood and position by being stupid in a customer's car, not when I am confident to know most of what I am talking about through experience of learning from people who can drive far better than I can.
Should I ever be fortunate enough to deal with your pride and joy, you will see what I mean.
Ruttboy.
Edited by ruttboy on Tuesday 6th November 17:14
Edited by ruttboy on Tuesday 6th November 17:15
Coming back to the topic. I own one (2008 which is performance-wise very similar to 2006) and have driven the other extensively (2004).
Significant improvements:
- Much much quicker - some dyno runs that others have done confirm that the power difference is more than the Lambo-provided number of 20 PS (more like 50 PS)
- Significant e-Gear improvements - e-Gear is still not perfect but much much better and faster shifting. Also gets less confused than the 04
- Lower gearing - this is immediately noticeable when you start driving 06 cars and up
- Wonderful exhaust note. Reworked exhaust so engine starts up louder, with the mufflers being bypassed upwards of 4000 RPM - a real treat!
- Front end lift system - I can't do without this - results in much better clearance than my stock 997 w/o PASM!
- New "mod cons" / comforts / options e.g. Navigation system, rear camera, etc.
- More reliable clutch - I have only 1800 miles on my G so I cannot personally vouch for this
As others have said cars from 06 onwards are better put together which is why 08 G's now have 3 years warranty - and no they do not seem to have factored it that much in the increased MSRP - For 08 they have more standard equipment and in spite of that the 08 increase was in line with other previous increases.
Significant improvements:
- Much much quicker - some dyno runs that others have done confirm that the power difference is more than the Lambo-provided number of 20 PS (more like 50 PS)
- Significant e-Gear improvements - e-Gear is still not perfect but much much better and faster shifting. Also gets less confused than the 04
- Lower gearing - this is immediately noticeable when you start driving 06 cars and up
- Wonderful exhaust note. Reworked exhaust so engine starts up louder, with the mufflers being bypassed upwards of 4000 RPM - a real treat!
- Front end lift system - I can't do without this - results in much better clearance than my stock 997 w/o PASM!
- New "mod cons" / comforts / options e.g. Navigation system, rear camera, etc.
- More reliable clutch - I have only 1800 miles on my G so I cannot personally vouch for this
As others have said cars from 06 onwards are better put together which is why 08 G's now have 3 years warranty - and no they do not seem to have factored it that much in the increased MSRP
- For 08 they have more standard equipment and in spite of that the 08 increase was in line with other previous increases.ruttboy said:
Patience,
Don't worry, not taking your comments the wrong way.
Most of what I test drive are customer's cars, about 5-600 miles a week doing sign off road tests and diagnostic checks, but it depends as to what you are checking for as to how fast you drive them. A technician in the passenger seat with a lap top can usually tell you what is going on far better than the seat of your pants.
For example, if you replace the clutch on an E-Gear equipped Lamborghini, it takes 45 minutes for the clutch to settle down before you can give it any stick, other wise it won't last, and those 45 minutes must all be sensible.
On the other hand, if you are testing the rear spoiler on a Murcielago, then high speeds are needed.
As I've said, if a customer is going to be paying £4,500 + for a clutch on said Lamborghini, then you don't want to ruin it by thrashing their pride and joy.
Sales cars are a different story, as you want to ensure that all faults are found before you offer the car for sale. But once they are tested, they don't need driving again, so you may only do a few proper performance road tests where you can identify differences in model years physically.
But you must also remember that I am in an extremely fortunate position, where I am trusted with supercars on a daily basis, and I not foolish enough to risk my lively hood and position by being stupid in a customer's car, not when I am confident to know most of what I am talking about through experience of learning from people who can drive far better than I can.
Should I ever be fortunate enough to deal with your pride and joy, you will see what I mean.
Ruttboy.
Nice explanation!Don't worry, not taking your comments the wrong way.
Most of what I test drive are customer's cars, about 5-600 miles a week doing sign off road tests and diagnostic checks, but it depends as to what you are checking for as to how fast you drive them. A technician in the passenger seat with a lap top can usually tell you what is going on far better than the seat of your pants.
For example, if you replace the clutch on an E-Gear equipped Lamborghini, it takes 45 minutes for the clutch to settle down before you can give it any stick, other wise it won't last, and those 45 minutes must all be sensible.
On the other hand, if you are testing the rear spoiler on a Murcielago, then high speeds are needed.
As I've said, if a customer is going to be paying £4,500 + for a clutch on said Lamborghini, then you don't want to ruin it by thrashing their pride and joy.
Sales cars are a different story, as you want to ensure that all faults are found before you offer the car for sale. But once they are tested, they don't need driving again, so you may only do a few proper performance road tests where you can identify differences in model years physically.
But you must also remember that I am in an extremely fortunate position, where I am trusted with supercars on a daily basis, and I not foolish enough to risk my lively hood and position by being stupid in a customer's car, not when I am confident to know most of what I am talking about through experience of learning from people who can drive far better than I can.
Should I ever be fortunate enough to deal with your pride and joy, you will see what I mean.
Ruttboy.
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