Do all BMW drivers...
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...have such dull and boring lives that they have to block any nice car going past them? Muppet on the motorway yesterday, in the outside lane (only two lanes), not catching the lorries in the inside lane at any significant differential (I counted a minute between most) - Wouldn't pull over to let me go past, I wasn't aggressive or right on his bumper, but didn't want to move. So I pull in to the inside lane, what does he do? Yes, you guessed it, pulls in to the inside lane and lets the car that was behind me go past him. Grrr.......
I think you'll find that you get idiots in all marques and that supposition on the basis of someone's entire life based on the badge on their bonnet is unlikely to be very accurate.
Who knows, they might even be planning on chopping in the beemer or their other car for an Elise.
Who knows, they might even be planning on chopping in the beemer or their other car for an Elise.
Edited by DaveR on Wednesday 7th November 11:00
DaveR said:
I think you'll find that you get idiots in all marques and that supposition on the basis of someone's entire life based on the badge on their bonnet is unlikely to be very accurate.
Who knows, they might even be planning on chopping in the beemer or their other car for an Elise.
Who knows, they might even be planning on chopping in the beemer or their other car for an Elise.
Edited by DaveR on Wednesday 7th November 11:00
I'm actually planning to compliment mine with a 111R once I've saved up enough pennies.
bob1179 said:
DaveR said:
I think you'll find that you get idiots in all marques and that supposition on the basis of someone's entire life based on the badge on their bonnet is unlikely to be very accurate.
Who knows, they might even be planning on chopping in the beemer or their other car for an Elise.
Who knows, they might even be planning on chopping in the beemer or their other car for an Elise.
Edited by DaveR on Wednesday 7th November 11:00
I'm actually planning to compliment mine with a 111R once I've saved up enough pennies.
You get idiots like that in all cars. At least with a BMW there's an outside chance they bought it because it's RWD with a balanced chassis and is better than the usual FWD wobble boxes you get nowadays!I'm about to buy a cheap four door saloon car for carrying stuff around, and I have a choice of a) a front wheel drive car designed to be as uninvolving as possible, b) a version of one of these cars souped up a bit to try and reclaim some vague flicker of interest for the driver, or c) a rear wheel drive car designed from the ground up to be comfortable, yet involving for the driver at the same time. Hmmm.. I wonder which I'll choose! It'll still be a boring saloon car, but at least I've chosen the ground up driver's car design. Now I just need to find one made before everything in Munich went horribly wrong in the year 2000...
It'll still be a boring saloon car, but at least I've chosen the ground up driver's car design. Now I just need to find one made before everything in Munich went horribly wrong in the year 2000...RobM77 said:
I'm about to buy a cheap four door saloon car for carrying stuff around, and I have a choice of a) a front wheel drive car designed to be as uninvolving as possible, b) a version of one of these cars souped up a bit to try and reclaim some vague flicker of interest for the driver, or c) a rear wheel drive car designed from the ground up to be comfortable, yet involving for the driver at the same time. Hmmm.. I wonder which I'll choose! It'll still be a boring saloon car, but at least I've chosen the ground up driver's car design. Now I just need to find one made before everything in Munich went horribly wrong in the year 2000...
It'll still be a boring saloon car, but at least I've chosen the ground up driver's car design. Now I just need to find one made before everything in Munich went horribly wrong in the year 2000...If you want interesting and cheap, have a look at my profile.
I paid 1800 quid for her and she is an absolute minter, the 3.5 straight six makes the most awesome howl when you give her a few beans too. I am not selling her. Ever.
You know you want to...
bob1179 said:
RobM77 said:
I'm about to buy a cheap four door saloon car for carrying stuff around, and I have a choice of a) a front wheel drive car designed to be as uninvolving as possible, b) a version of one of these cars souped up a bit to try and reclaim some vague flicker of interest for the driver, or c) a rear wheel drive car designed from the ground up to be comfortable, yet involving for the driver at the same time. Hmmm.. I wonder which I'll choose! It'll still be a boring saloon car, but at least I've chosen the ground up driver's car design. Now I just need to find one made before everything in Munich went horribly wrong in the year 2000...
It'll still be a boring saloon car, but at least I've chosen the ground up driver's car design. Now I just need to find one made before everything in Munich went horribly wrong in the year 2000...If you want interesting and cheap, have a look at my profile.
I paid 1800 quid for her and she is an absolute minter, the 3.5 straight six makes the most awesome howl when you give her a few beans too. I am not selling her. Ever.
You know you want to...
I was thinking of a car that could handle towing the 7 to race tracks and longer motorway trips as well, so was thinking of a very late four door E36 328i. Something that early might not put up with my intended useage?
An E34 5 Series ('88-'95) would probably be a better bet, especially the Touring as you'll be able to get all your bits in the back too. The straight sixes have loads of torque for towing, if you can find a 525TDS that would probably be perfect, good economy, loads of torque and power and it still makes the straight six noise (even though it's a diesel).
Or go mad and buy a 540!
Mine doesn't get used too much now as I'm away all the time, but I did loads of miles in my 525i with little hassle. All the parts are available and they aren't too pricey.
Or go mad and buy a 540!
Mine doesn't get used too much now as I'm away all the time, but I did loads of miles in my 525i with little hassle. All the parts are available and they aren't too pricey.
I have a BMW 5 and an Elise.
I am of the belief that no matter what car you put an utter tw4t in he's an utter tw4t, and I believe that if you put a considerate driver in any car including a BMW and they remain a considerate driver.
The BMW issue seems to arise from their potential market, their cars are sold to enthusiasts yes, but they are also sold to people who just happen to have enough money and bought the most expensive car they could afford so they could show off to the neighbours.
Its this latter group that are IMO the t
t brigade, they are tw4ts before they buy their cars and they will be tw4ts long after they have sold their cars.
I am of the belief that no matter what car you put an utter tw4t in he's an utter tw4t, and I believe that if you put a considerate driver in any car including a BMW and they remain a considerate driver.
The BMW issue seems to arise from their potential market, their cars are sold to enthusiasts yes, but they are also sold to people who just happen to have enough money and bought the most expensive car they could afford so they could show off to the neighbours.
Its this latter group that are IMO the t
t brigade, they are tw4ts before they buy their cars and they will be tw4ts long after they have sold their cars.patmahe said:
I have a BMW 5 and an Elise.
I am of the belief that no matter what car you put an utter tw4t in he's an utter tw4t, and I believe that if you put a considerate driver in any car including a BMW and they remain a considerate driver.
The BMW issue seems to arise from their potential market, their cars are sold to enthusiasts yes, but they are also sold to people who just happen to have enough money and bought the most expensive car they could afford so they could show off to the neighbours.
Its this latter group that are IMO the tt brigade, they are tw4ts before they buy their cars and they will be tw4ts long after they have sold their cars.
I am of the belief that no matter what car you put an utter tw4t in he's an utter tw4t, and I believe that if you put a considerate driver in any car including a BMW and they remain a considerate driver.
The BMW issue seems to arise from their potential market, their cars are sold to enthusiasts yes, but they are also sold to people who just happen to have enough money and bought the most expensive car they could afford so they could show off to the neighbours.
Its this latter group that are IMO the t
t brigade, they are tw4ts before they buy their cars and they will be tw4ts long after they have sold their cars. If I buy this old 328 then I'll have a Caterham, Lotus and a BMW. I'll spend most of my time in the Elise, with weekend and track blasts in the Caterham. Why when I need to take my cello or bike around would I suddenly become a tt? What bizarre logic some people have! 
LivinLaVidaLotus said:
No, I think he's saying that most BMW drivers buy them for the badge and they tend to be the type he and I are refering to - but that they'd be the same no matter what car they drove, just that their mindset is attracted to a certain "status" car.
Mmm.. the OP did say "all". I'm a bit touchy this afternoon after someone on GG announced that "all BMW drivers are ws"! It's not that buying a BMW makes you a tt, it's that being a tt makes you want a BMW (or maybe a Porsche).
As far as I can tell, BMW have two completely destinct customer bases. There's the driving enthusiast who wants a practical car and then there's the person who will buy any crap that has a BMW badge on it. The latter give the former a bad name - unfortunately I think the latter outnumber the former.
The only kind of badge snobbery I suffer from is the kind that means I will never buy a Porsche or a BMW. I know they're great cars but I just couldn't life the association.
t, it's that being a tt makes you want a BMW (or maybe a Porsche). As far as I can tell, BMW have two completely destinct customer bases. There's the driving enthusiast who wants a practical car and then there's the person who will buy any crap that has a BMW badge on it. The latter give the former a bad name - unfortunately I think the latter outnumber the former.
The only kind of badge snobbery I suffer from is the kind that means I will never buy a Porsche or a BMW. I know they're great cars but I just couldn't life the association.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 7th November 15:33
kambites said:
It's not that buying a BMW makes you a tt, it's that being a tt makes you want a BMW (or maybe a Porsche).
As far as I can tell, BMW have two completely destinct customer bases. There's the driving enthusiast who wants a practical car and then there's the person who will buy any crap that has a BMW badge on it. The latter give the former a bad name - unfortunately I think the latter outnumber the former.
The only kind of badge snobbery I suffer from is the kind that means I will never buy a Porsche or a BMW. I know they're great cars but I just couldn't life the association.
It's a great shame that such un-intelligent prejudice exists. t, it's that being a tt makes you want a BMW (or maybe a Porsche). As far as I can tell, BMW have two completely destinct customer bases. There's the driving enthusiast who wants a practical car and then there's the person who will buy any crap that has a BMW badge on it. The latter give the former a bad name - unfortunately I think the latter outnumber the former.
The only kind of badge snobbery I suffer from is the kind that means I will never buy a Porsche or a BMW. I know they're great cars but I just couldn't life the association.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 7th November 15:33
For example, I prefer RWD and am thinking about buying a practical car with four seats etc for occasional use towing etc. I was thinking of an E36 328i. I know I'm walking into a string of abuse on the road and sarcastic comments in the office, but the alternative for me is to buy a front wheel drive car that I'll hate driving! I'm a car enthusiast, and not a fan of practical saloon cars - I'll just about bear a BMW though. I always indicate, have never cut anyone up in my life, and am just about the most unassuming least flashy guy you'll ever meet.
kambites said:
It's not that buying a BMW makes you a tt, it's that being a tt makes you want a BMW (or maybe a Porsche).
...or maybe a chavved up Clio/Saxo/Nova (you might think if you consider yourself older and wiser).t, it's that being a tt makes you want a BMW (or maybe a Porsche). ...or maybe a Bentley/Jag/Aston (you might think if you haven't got that level of disposable income to invest in automotive luxury yourself).
Personally, I don't care what other people think about what I drive, what I wear, what I do with my spare time or whay music I listen to while I'm doing it.
If you haven't got the strength of character to just enjoy what you enjoy for fear of what other people might think or associations they might draw, then what have you got?
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