Is there anyway not to return your license with a FPN?

[skyrocketship]

Bit of a silly question, but is there any way of not returning your license with a FPN?

Am getting done for 36mph at five to one in the morning on Bow Road (I mean, ffs, really!!! - but I remember being flashed and I did do it, it just seems to pointless to get 3 points for doing 36 on a wide london road at 1 in the morning....) but anyway - I need my license most days for ID and work purposes and it will bugger me up to send it away - so is there any way around this?

anyone know how long I will be without it for?

cheers in advance

[Dwight VanDriver]

If you don't send your licence then the Conditional Offer cannot be completed so it will be a trip to Court.

You seem to be in a mood to accept the Conditional Offer so as your Driving Licence is a dear thing then consider

(1) Sending letter with your cheque and DL asking to return the Licence ASAP, and

(2) before sending away photocopy and use pending return of proper DL.

dvd

[G.O'Rilla]

When I got a FPN from Cambridge constabulary, I sent it off and then phoned them and they endorsed it the same day and let me pick it up in person. Probably worth a call to whoever does the endorsement to ask them if you can do a "while you wait". You never know...... Or at least post it off and then phone them. Or phone them first. The cost is only a call.

The lot that I dealt with were very polite and helpful. I might not agree with the reason for the ticket but we are dealing with human beings trying to do a job and they were helpful to me when I was polite to them. They don't scam you - only process the paperwork so not the target for any bad feelings

Hope that helps

[Ean218]

Surely you only send away the paper bit? You can carry on using the card for ID purposes.

[fatboy b]

skyrocketship said:

....it just seems to pointless to get 3 points for doing 36 on a wide london road at 1 in the morning....)

That would be an indicated 40mph on the speedo - in a 30. If the posted limit is 30 then 3 points are justified IMO.

[vonhosen]

Ean218 said:

Surely you only send away the paper bit? You can carry on using the card for ID purposes.

The licence is both parts, producing one part is not producing the licence.

[Peter Ward]

fatboy b said:

skyrocketship said:

....it just seems to pointless to get 3 points for doing 36 on a wide london road at 1 in the morning....)

That would be an indicated 40mph on the speedo - in a 30. If the posted limit is 30 then 3 points are justified IMO.

I presume the OP intended to mean that the road was quiet and empty. You may feel 36 in a 30 is wrong at any time and of course legally you're right, as is 30.00001. However, there used to be a thing called discretion and it's no longer being applied. 36 past a school at 3:30pm is one thing, but on a quiet road at dead of night is another -- IMHO.

[Ean218]

vonhosen said:

Ean218 said:

Surely you only send away the paper bit? You can carry on using the card for ID purposes.

The licence is both parts, producing one part is not producing the licence.

It's not a producer, it's getting it endorsed for an FPN. The paper bit is written on, nothing happens to the plastic bit.

[andmole]

fatboy b said:

skyrocketship said:

....it just seems to pointless to get 3 points for doing 36 on a wide london road at 1 in the morning....)

That would be an indicated 40mph on the speedo - in a 30. If the posted limit is 30 then 3 points are justified IMO.

Not necessarily, it could have read anywhere between 36 and 39.6(OK 40), but not under 36, (at least it shouldn't under read).

I realise that the OP was driving in a highly dangerous fashion likely to lead to the deaths of several small children, and causing global temperatures to rise by several degrees, but at least try to get your facts right.

[hemibum]

We've been here before. I only sent the paper part when I was done for "An illegal Left turn"

Got a phone call from the endorsing authority asking me to send the plastic bit.

I said that I wasn't going to, the plastic had already been sighted by charging Bib, I was going overseas and may need to hire a car. Pleasant lady at other end said" but you have to".
"Why"? I asked. " You have the bit that gets the endorsement, I need the plastic bit"

She made some vague statement about the need for the plastic, but I apologised and said I wasn't sending it.

Got the endorsed part back about a week later, no consequences.

[vonhosen]

Ean218 said:

vonhosen said:

Ean218 said:

Surely you only send away the paper bit? You can carry on using the card for ID purposes.

The licence is both parts, producing one part is not producing the licence.

It's not a producer, it's getting it endorsed for an FPN. The paper bit is written on, nothing happens to the plastic bit.

There is a producer on the FPN & both parts have to be handed in.

[uk_vette]

vonhosen said:

Ean218 said:

vonhosen said:

Ean218 said:

Surely you only send away the paper bit? You can carry on using the card for ID purposes.

The licence is both parts, producing one part is not producing the licence.

It's not a producer, it's getting it endorsed for an FPN. The paper bit is written on, nothing happens to the plastic bit.

There is a producer on the FPN & both parts have to be handed in.

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So and if . .
And if I never traded my paper licence that I had to "pay" all them years ago, I now resent the need to "pay" again for a plastic one.
I feel if the dept. want me to have a plastic one then they can pay for it themselves

Rant over !