Renault spying?

[Pooh]

Renault accused of spying, I wonder what will happen to them?

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_2869059,00.html 

[RobbieMeister]

They will appologise and say it was all done by a junior member of the team without the knowledge of the management. They will then promise some management re-shuffle.

Max will dig up George Carmen and he will bamboozel the WMSC into letting them off.


Just like last time!

[jesusbuiltmycar]

Perhaps Ferrari could get the FIA to kick Renault out of the 2006 consructors world championship and add another constructors win to their list of victories

[patmahe]

Renault could be in the sh1t on this one. There is now a precident for this type of thing, might not be able to get away with it.

Good to see the sport being dragged down so publicly again

[RobbieMeister]

patmahe said:

Renault could be in the sh1t on this one. There is now a precident for this type of thing, might not be able to get away with it.

I'd put money on them getting off!

You read it here.

[toomuchbeer]

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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

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[Heebeegeetee]

toomuchbeer said:

*cough*

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

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Silly thread title though.

[Pooh]

toomuchbeer said:

*cough*

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

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I did look to see if this story had already been posted, funnily enough I did not spot that thread.

[EDLT]

Pooh said:

Renault accused of spying, I wonder what will happen to them?

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_2869059,00.html 

That link seems to say that most of the spying information ended up at Renault, and yet McLaren were delt with first. Now if thats true then it opens a whole new book on the FerrarIA conspiracy...

[Yung Man]

I'll bet Alonso has got something to do with it.

[kevin ritson]

Yung Man said:

I'll bet Alonso has got something to do with it.

Explains the silly facial hair - it's obviously a disguise, there's no way it could be real

[Flipatron]

Renault have said 'we have nothing to hide'.

I'm sure I've heared that somewhere before?????

[jamieboy]

EDLT said:

Pooh said:

Renault accused of spying, I wonder what will happen to them?

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_2869059,00.html 

That link seems to say that most of the spying information ended up at Renault, and yet McLaren were delt with first. Now if thats true then it opens a whole new book on the FerrarIA conspiracy...

That's not how I read it:

"During the first round of Stepneygate hearings earlier this year, during which it was McLaren's authorised possession of Ferrari secrets that was being probed, Renault's name came up in McLaren's own investigation"

To me, that sounds as though the Renault spying* was only uncovered during the investigation into the McLaren spying - the McLaren spying came up first, so was dealt with first.

Not sure where you're getting "most of the spying information ended up at Renault" either?

* I'm using the word 'spying', because it's handy - let's not start a fight about whether or not it's exactly the right word to use.

[10 Pence Short]

As far as I'm aware a McLaren designer left for Renault and it's known that he took a few CDs full of information. Nothing to do with Ferrari at all.

This could be a master stroke by Dennis against Alonso and Briatore. Dennis lets Alonso go, knowing he'll sign for Renault. Dennis then properly unleashes his allegations against Renault, potentially knackering Alonso's seat for 2008.

Probably not too close to the truth, but it makes a good story!

[clonmult]

From the beeb :

"the layout and critical dimensions of the McLaren F1 car"

So all they did was look at the Macca, and say its "xx feet long, xx feet wide, has four wheels, the engines somewhere in the back, and its got some wings".

Surely the major dimensions of F1 cars are pretty much tied down in the concorde agreement?

[Doobs]

It doesn't say the major dimensions though, it says the layout and critical dimensions.

[philis]

By the FIA rules, Renault should have been the F1 world champions for the last 13 years.
In 1994 they Designed the "honeycomb" fuel tank
If im not mistaken i belive every team on the grid have been using it ever since so in effect they are all in posession of renault "ideas"

[anonymous-user]

Renault werent even in F1 in 94, and the fuel cell design was on cars in the 60's.

[RedYellowGreen]

johnfelstead said:

Renault werent even in F1 in 94, and the fuel cell design was on cars in the 60's.

Errr renault were supplying engines to the Williams and Ligier teams in 94 and the Renault team is the old benetton team. Not sure about fuel cells though.

[anonymous-user]

I meant in terms of being a team who designed the fuel cell. Maybe Mclaren should be WCC for the last 40 years, because they were using this kind of fuel cell back in the late 60's. It should really be Goodyear given the WCC as they produced this kind of fuel cell for racing cars in 1965.