Can this be true?

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tony_996hasgone

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3,160 posts

271 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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Tories pledge 80mph speed limit??? ... and get rid of some cameras??? ... and more relaxed limits at night???

www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/5544002

Tories pledge 80mph speed limit

By David Williams, Motoring Editor, Evening Standard
1 July 2003

Motorway speed limits will go up to 80mph and the controversial M4 bus lane will be abolished if the Tories win the next general election.
The pledges will be announced by shadow transport secretary Tim Collins this month when the Conservatives unveil their transport agenda, stating they will be "the party of the motorist".
Mr Collins today attacked the M4 bus lane, introducedin June 1999 by Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott, as "a nonsense generating congestion". He is pledging that the Tories - who have already opposed congestion charging - will end what they describe as a "political war" against motorists and scrap "schemes that deter car use", including unnecessary road humps and road tolls.
The Conservatives say they will scrap speed cameras in all but genuine accident blackspots.
Mr Collins said: "We will stop the practice of raising money from cameras for police to buy more cameras that encourage unsafe slow-down-speed-up driving and increase exhaust pollution."
He said the Tories would raise motorway speed limits "where appropriate", adding: "The present motorway 70mph limit could go up to 80mph. Simultaneously some other speed limits could come down."
The party is also considering nighttime speed limits "where appropriate and safe for vehicles to be driven faster on virtually empty major roads than during the day when they are busy".
They will review traffic-calming road humps after London's ambulance chief claimed they caused more deaths than they prevent, and Barnet council announced it was committed to removing humps in the borough.
Mr Collins said: "In 2001 not one inch of tarmac increased England's road network, for the first time since tarmac was invented in the 1860s. Yet UK taxpayers contributed to improving roads in Scotland, Ireland, Italy and elsewhere-in the EU - even in Iraq. People should not be made to feel guilty when they need to get behind the wheel."
He said the Tories would allow a "mature and realistic" transport debate that would address risks on road and rail. "Rail crashes occur worldwide and are tragic, and action is taken to prevent recurrence," said Mr Collins. "But, put into perspective, more people die on roads with less outcry.
"We have a clear objective to speed up journeys. UK commuters take longer to get to work than in any other EU state.
"We will look at lifting unrealistic motoring restrictions that do not necessarily improve safety but can even increase accidents."


>>> Edited by tony_996hasgone on Tuesday 1st July 13:35

Stig

11,823 posts

297 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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Well, they'll get my vote even if it is the usual load of pre-election boll*x

Alan420

5,618 posts

271 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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Taken together with the barnet councils' surge of common sense, could this be the beginning of the end for the Lentil-Munching extreemists?


P L E A S E ? ? ? ? ? ?

gh0st

4,693 posts

271 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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Are they former members of Pistonheads???

swilly

9,699 posts

287 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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Sounds good, just so long as a proper debate and investigation is made as opposed to being hijacked by political agenda's and lobby groups.

hut49

3,544 posts

275 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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Great news - all it takes to get elected is to pick off, one-by-one, these insidious instruments used by those in power (and the power-seeking bureaucracies they spawn) to repress society. This bunch of perverted-lefties who now dress to the right have gone too far and they are about to feel MOAB - the mother of all backlashes.

count duckula

1,324 posts

287 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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This is good news, the Tories have noticed the motorist is getting more and more shafted, hopfully labour will sit up and take notice.

fat chance



Malc

Mr E

22,368 posts

272 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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Oh bugger. Does this mean I'm going to have to vote tory rather than writing "You're all a bunch of useless spineless self glorifying wimps and I refuse to vote for any of you" all over my ballot paper as usual....

bogie

16,727 posts

285 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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well if its true I think they will pick up a lot of votes from the motoring public

Alan420

5,618 posts

271 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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Just wish I could hold 80mph.

My car has short ratios, and it'd be at about 16,000,000 rpm cruising at 80.

Alan420

5,618 posts

271 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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Just wish I could hold 80mph.

My car has short ratios, and it'd be at about 16,000,000 rpm cruising at 80.

openside

12 posts

263 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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It would take some bribery to make me vote for that bunch of arsehles but they may just have found my price...suspect it's just the usual election 'promises' which somehow get forgotten about once they have got their bums into ministerial Jags

cheers,
brian

apeebles

267 posts

297 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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Go tories..... I may even come back to blighty once Bliar is out of power...

Davel

8,982 posts

271 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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Sounds good to me too!

deltaf

6,806 posts

266 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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I remain yet to be convinced. If they DO what they SAY they will do, then id give them this very **last** chance.
As for Bliar and "new" labour, well, they'll never get my vote again as long as i have a breath in me.

Teppic

7,621 posts

270 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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Tim Collins said:
"We will stop the practice of raising money from cameras for police to buy more cameras that encourage unsafe slow-down-speed-up driving and increase exhaust pollution."




Goodbye GATSO's, hello more SPECS




Tim Collins said:
"The present motorway 70mph limit could go up to 80mph.




Could = won't.




Tim Collins said:
Simultaneously some other speed limits could come down."




Could = will

All sounds like spin and empty promises to me. Politicians tell all sorts of lies when they are desperate to get elected... or am I just pessimistic now when it comes to motoring in this country?


>> Edited by Teppic on Tuesday 1st July 17:38

fast westfield

412 posts

284 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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If true how many times can I vote for them

Paul.