635D Impressions
635D Impressions
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tuffer

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9,009 posts

296 months

Monday 19th November 2007
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Just taken one for a test drive, very very nice. Would be tempted if it were not for the ridiculous price tag (£60k). A second hand 2005 low mileage 645i can be had for £30k - £35k which seems far more reasonable.

sjp63

1,997 posts

301 months

Tuesday 20th November 2007
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tuffer said:
Just taken one for a test drive, very very nice. Would be tempted if it were not for the ridiculous price tag (£60k). A second hand 2005 low mileage 645i can be had for £30k - £35k which seems far more reasonable.
be interested to see what the real world mpg is on the diesel

NickXX

1,647 posts

247 months

Tuesday 20th November 2007
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I imagine real world economy would be in the region of high 20s-35mpg.

RS4john

331 posts

238 months

Tuesday 20th November 2007
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tuffer said:
Just taken one for a test drive, very very nice. Would be tempted if it were not for the ridiculous price tag (£60k). A second hand 2005 low mileage 645i can be had for £30k - £35k which seems far more reasonable.
I have also driven the car twice now, 28MPG driving normally ( very poor) but the real test was in cold wet conditions........... eek the car handled terrible, bumping and crashing, ESP coming on all the time, could not put any power through it. Put me off as I wanted one after the warm dry day test.frown

bmwdrivernigel

8,596 posts

253 months

Tuesday 20th November 2007
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RS4john said:
[ the car handled terrible, bumping and crashing, ESP coming on all the time, could not put any power through it. Put me off as I wanted one after the warm dry day test.frown
Just had one on loan for yesterday and found the same, a completely different drive than the 630 cab I have just given back.

tuffer

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9,009 posts

296 months

Tuesday 20th November 2007
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bmwdrivernigel said:
RS4john said:
[ the car handled terrible, bumping and crashing, ESP coming on all the time, could not put any power through it. Put me off as I wanted one after the warm dry day test.frown
Just had one on loan for yesterday and found the same, a completely different drive than the 630 cab I have just given back.
You must have been pushing on a bit, I had no prob's yesterday in the crappy weather.

RS4john

331 posts

238 months

Tuesday 20th November 2007
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tuffer said:
bmwdrivernigel said:
RS4john said:
[ the car handled terrible, bumping and crashing, ESP coming on all the time, could not put any power through it. Put me off as I wanted one after the warm dry day test.frown
Just had one on loan for yesterday and found the same, a completely different drive than the 630 cab I have just given back.
You must have been pushing on a bit, I had no prob's yesterday in the crappy weather.
No just driving on A/B roads at reasonable speeds, it was "Stepping out" all the time no anything but genttle bends, scary really.
Also the temp was down to zero, which really transformed it into danger zone, try one when it's very cold.

ATM

21,347 posts

248 months

Tuesday 20th November 2007
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Probably due to the Run Flats tyres. They are seriously crap in cold weather and almost dangerous when its damp.

Dino D

1,953 posts

250 months

Tuesday 20th November 2007
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RS4john said:
No just driving on A/B roads at reasonable speeds, it was "Stepping out" all the time no anything but genttle bends, scary really.
Also the temp was down to zero, which really transformed it into danger zone, try one when it's very cold.
Notice from the name that you have an RS4 which is probably one of the most grippiest cars about and as a result maybe changes you driving style in that you are used to applying the throttle early on and in big doses?

The BMW sport models can be a bit brittle and skippy as a result they get the DSC excited. I found that with my 330 when the system is off progress is smoother when pushing and as long as you are sensible with your inputs. The lack of lsd results in rather harmless inside wheel spin rather than nice/dangerous slides. No experience of the 6 but in a mates 535d it was much the same. His 335bhp 335d is very 'skittish' and gets the inside wheel spinning way too easily. Sport spec again is a bit of culprit along with lack of lsd...


RS4john

331 posts

238 months

Tuesday 20th November 2007
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Dino D said:
RS4john said:
No just driving on A/B roads at reasonable speeds, it was "Stepping out" all the time no anything but genttle bends, scary really.
Also the temp was down to zero, which really transformed it into danger zone, try one when it's very cold.
Notice from the name that you have an RS4 which is probably one of the most grippiest cars about and as a result maybe changes you driving style in that you are used to applying the throttle early on and in big doses?

The BMW sport models can be a bit brittle and skippy as a result they get the DSC excited. I found that with my 330 when the system is off progress is smoother when pushing and as long as you are sensible with your inputs. The lack of lsd results in rather harmless inside wheel spin rather than nice/dangerous slides. No experience of the 6 but in a mates 535d it was much the same. His 335bhp 335d is very 'skittish' and gets the inside wheel spinning way too easily. Sport spec again is a bit of culprit along with lack of lsd...
Thanks for your comments, I really wanted that 635D, I just can't bring myself to buy it now for those run-flats and suspension issues.
I was now "pushing hard" just driving normal, bit sad really.

ATM

21,347 posts

248 months

Tuesday 20th November 2007
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Its a big heavy car.

mogul

15,398 posts

279 months

Tuesday 20th November 2007
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I really like the thought of a 635D Sport and currently have an 07 LCI 535D M Sport (DMS'd)

If the 6 is anything like my 5, it'll be all over the road when you try and really push on in weather like today. Fun for a while, but bordering on dangerous around some roundabouts (having gone sideways earlier today wobble

I hate to think what the M5 must be like! nuts

Dino D

1,953 posts

250 months

Tuesday 20th November 2007
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mogul said:
II hate to think what the M5 must be like! nuts
Far more sorted actually. It's a completely different car although it seems like a souped up 5 series it's far from it-M5 is a hoot even the wet-amazingly predictable and controllable and finds much more grip than a sport spec 5.
To be fair though I have only been in it with the traction systems dialled back to about 3/4. I think it was in 'Dynamic' mode that allows powerslides but steps in if you are going to lose it. On a wet airfield day with the TC completely it was apparently much more of a handful with the weight making itself felt.

It's a shame that BMW can produce such well sorted M cars but with their Sport spec models they just stick on hard suspension and big wheels.

flattotheboards

6,689 posts

235 months

Tuesday 20th November 2007
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60k eek you could have a slightly used m6 for that.

ATM

21,347 posts

248 months

Wednesday 21st November 2007
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Dino D said:
mogul said:
II hate to think what the M5 must be like! nuts
Far more sorted actually. It's a completely different car although it seems like a souped up 5 series it's far from it-M5 is a hoot even the wet-amazingly predictable and controllable and finds much more grip than a sport spec 5.
To be fair though I have only been in it with the traction systems dialled back to about 3/4. I think it was in 'Dynamic' mode that allows powerslides but steps in if you are going to lose it. On a wet airfield day with the TC completely it was apparently much more of a handful with the weight making itself felt.

It's a shame that BMW can produce such well sorted M cars but with their Sport spec models they just stick on hard suspension and big wheels.
I assume they are not run flats on the M5?

mogul

15,398 posts

279 months

Wednesday 21st November 2007
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ATM said:
Dino D said:
mogul said:
II hate to think what the M5 must be like! nuts
Far more sorted actually. It's a completely different car although it seems like a souped up 5 series it's far from it-M5 is a hoot even the wet-amazingly predictable and controllable and finds much more grip than a sport spec 5.
To be fair though I have only been in it with the traction systems dialled back to about 3/4. I think it was in 'Dynamic' mode that allows powerslides but steps in if you are going to lose it. On a wet airfield day with the TC completely it was apparently much more of a handful with the weight making itself felt.

It's a shame that BMW can produce such well sorted M cars but with their Sport spec models they just stick on hard suspension and big wheels.
I assume they are not run flats on the M5?
haven't got run flats on my 535D M Sport.

Nightmare in the wet...

jjr1

3,041 posts

289 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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I have the 19's on my 535d and therefore the non run flats and it handles fine in the wet. Flew across a roads last night at 2am in the teaming rain and no probs.

You boys don't know you were born with all this evil handling malarky. My Exige is on a048's and I run that in the winter and every corner is an adventure. Sometimes too much of one as I aquaplaned at Donington in the wet last year straight into a barrier. oops wink

Fittster

20,120 posts

242 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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ATM said:
Its a big heavy car.
Is it much heavier than a petrol engined 645?

Huliganov

319 posts

224 months

Saturday 19th January 2008
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I thought it was supposed to get close to 40mpg in mixed driving conditions? 28mpg seems quite dire.

RS4john

331 posts

238 months

Saturday 19th January 2008
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Update; I was driving it in sport modepunch no wonder it was dancing about a bit, drove one yesterday and it was fine even in the wet it held on O.
I am going to buy one if my RS4 gets bought this monday, seen one in Deep Sea Blue with Cream leather Pro Sat Nav/ bluetooth tetematics/ USB port/ 6 CD/ dipping folding mirrors @ £47.5K ( october 2007 57 reg 2900 miles)laugh