ACPO Racketeers

[fluffnik]

The rump of ACPO that has not retired in disgrace wants to re-reclassify cannabis to class B.

Why?

So they can issue £80 FPs for possession.

Sack the bly lot!

[havoc]

Ah, the fine. The weapon of choice for those wishing to punish the working classes while letting the layabout scum do what they wish with impunity.

[Chrispy Porker]

A familiar theme, Fluff.
What would you have them replaced by?

[BliarOut]

Chrispy Porker said:

A familiar theme, Fluff.
What would you have them replaced by?

For cannabis use? Chocolate biscuits of course

[s2art]

Chrispy Porker said:

A familiar theme, Fluff.
What would you have them replaced by?

People who cleave to the original ethos of the Police; to protect people and their property against scrotes.

[fluffnik]

Chrispy Porker said:

A familiar theme, Fluff.
What would you have them replaced by?

Mostly, nothing, with a little bit of Ratepayer's Watch Comittee on the side.

[havoc]

Chrispy Porker said:

A familiar theme, Fluff.
What would you have them replaced by?

For cannabis? Decriminalisation.

For (most) other things that are currently subject to FPNs/similar summary fines, how about PROPER punishments that will actually mean something to those likely to get caught. Punishments that do what punishments USED TO DO in the past - act as a deterrent!

Because that, to me, is one of the three key problems with modern law enforcement:-
- Lack of deterrent effect;
- Lack of law-enforcement personnel, so little chance of detection;
- "I know my rights"

In other words, scrotes know they probably won't get caught, if they do they've got a good chance of getting off because of all the red tape and 'rights', and even if they are convicted the punishment will be meaningless IF it is handed down at all.


Serious question CP - what are detection rates (lets ignore conviction rates as that would bring the CPS in...) in your area for some of the more widespread crimes? And would you care to guess what proportion go unreported?

[M5Dave]

fluffnik said:

The rump of ACPO that has not retired in disgrace wants to re-reclassify cannabis to class B.

Why?

So they can issue £80 FPs for possession.

Sack the bly lot!

I thought this was government policy, having realised that reclasification to class 'C' was a mistake, because it sent out the message that the drug was harmless.

I'm not an expert on this subject, but most people who are seem to agree that the drug poses a serious mental health risk to long term users.

[Deltaf01]

M5Dave said:

I'm not an expert on this subject, but most people who are seem to agree that the drug poses a serious mental health risk to long term users.

Yeah you only have to look at this place to realise that..

[Peter Ward]

Interesting perspective, fluffnik. I heard an ACPO spokesperson yesterday saying quite the opposite. They had no intention of upholding the law against cannabis possession, and wished to retain the "utmost flexibility" regarding cannabis possession.

It also emerged that the reason they originally pressed for cannabis to be downgraded to C was that they couldn't cope with the number of arrests they were having to make, but that this requirement had now been waived so it could go back to B.

Again I make the point that this flexibility with regard to criminal offences is in stark contrast to the much more prevalent, and less dangerous, activity of speeding. It's clear that one has to do with effort and manpower while the other is down to outsourcing employment and overtime funding to unelected bodies.