Steering Feel
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VladD

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8,136 posts

288 months

Wednesday 21st November 2007
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I've got an Impreza Type-R. It goes like hell, but I don't have full confidence in the corners because of a lack of feel through the steering. Is there anything I can do about this or is that just the way it is?

Wadeski

8,819 posts

236 months

Wednesday 21st November 2007
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sounds like you may need to get the tracking / alignment checked out?

also:
do you have silly wheels on it?
decent tires?
any modifications to suspension?

markCSC

2,987 posts

238 months

Wednesday 21st November 2007
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The steering is a bit light and vauge, most people only notice it if their previous car had good steering feel.

You can get a quick rack but I don't know if that will improve the feel.

Not much help smile

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

249 months

Wednesday 21st November 2007
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Try uprating the steering rack bushes for decent performance polyurethane bushes (powerflex) first. That should give you a lot more feel as the bushes are much harder than OEM and provides a slightly sharper and more positive turn in and plenty of feel. If that's still no good try fitting a quickrack. The quickrack means less physical steering wheel turn for same amount of turn in and again more road feel, plus as has been said already, maybe you need to have a fast road geometry setup. That should sort you out.

GravelBen

16,327 posts

253 months

Wednesday 21st November 2007
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I think some of the Type-R STis (certainly Type-RAs did) had the quickrack as an option from the factory so worth checking if you already have it before spending money on getting one. I think if they have it theres usually a sticker on the rear window saying so.

As others have said geometry set-up can make a big difference, and tyres can also have a significant effect - what rubber is it wearing?

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

249 months

Wednesday 21st November 2007
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Ben... That's outrageous behaviour asking a bloke what rubber he wears!! hehe

VladD

Original Poster:

8,136 posts

288 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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Wadeski said:
sounds like you may need to get the tracking / alignment checked out?

also:
do you have silly wheels on it?
decent tires?
any modifications to suspension?
Wheels are 17" OZs. Not standard, but not outrageous.
Tyres are Toyo Proxes T1-Rs.
Suspension is standard (as far as I'm aware).

Edited by VladD on Thursday 22 November 10:05

VladD

Original Poster:

8,136 posts

288 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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ScoobieWRX said:
Try uprating the steering rack bushes for decent performance polyurethane bushes (powerflex) first. That should give you a lot more feel as the bushes are much harder than OEM and provides a slightly sharper and more positive turn in and plenty of feel. If that's still no good try fitting a quickrack. The quickrack means less physical steering wheel turn for same amount of turn in and again more road feel, plus as has been said already, maybe you need to have a fast road geometry setup. That should sort you out.
Thanks for that, lots of useful advise. I don't suppose you know how many turns, lock to lock, a standard rack and a quick rack are? As a guess I'd say that I have a standard rack, but I'll check.

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

249 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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I think the standard is 3.2 turns lock-to-lock and the quickrack is either 2.8 or 2.6 turns lock-to-lock.

Where is shout GravelBen when you need him, he's usually good on the specs wink

Holst

2,468 posts

244 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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VladD said:
Wadeski said:
sounds like you may need to get the tracking / alignment checked out?

also:
do you have silly wheels on it?
decent tires?
any modifications to suspension?
Wheels are 17" OZs. Not standard, but not outrageous.
Tyres are Toyo Proxes T1-Rs.
Suspension is standard (as far as I'm aware).

Edited by VladD on Thursday 22 November 10:05
Have you tried playing with tire pressures?

I run 17" wheels on my lude with T1R's and I found the manufacturer recomended of 34 was too much and the feel is much better at 30, but you may want to experiment to see what feels right to you.

Evil.soup

4,047 posts

228 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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I know mine isnt the same model, but i found a simular problem going from an MR2 Roadster to the WRX. The MR2 gave great communication from the road and i didnt get the same feel from the Scoob. New springs and fast road geometry made a big difference, far more feel through the corners and gave me confidence during hard driving. Its still not as good as the MR2 but they are very different beasts so i am well happy with it.
Try the geometry first before spending lots of hard earned on replacing parts, even if it doesnt solve the problem, it will be money well spent and improve turn in.wink

AJI

5,180 posts

240 months

Friday 23rd November 2007
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as suggested.... look at the tyre pressures, they maybe well over pressure.

Also other things to go for are widest tyres possible for the car/alloys...... see if you are able to replace the power steering fluid with some thicker type <-- must check the owners club if this is something that is safe to do on your particular model I must point out.

Also as mentioned.... the camber and more importantly for steering feel is the castor. Might be worht going for a full 4 wheel lazer alignment check up... if not already done recently.

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

249 months

Friday 23rd November 2007
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I had a 4-Wheel Geometry check and adjustment done recently and it made a huge difference to the car. Well worth doing.