Meredith Hughes adjournment. Update; now banned
Meredith Hughes adjournment. Update; now banned
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mark69sheer

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3,906 posts

233 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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WREXHAM Britain’s most senior traffic policeman has been criticised for wasting court time after he failed to answer a speeding charge yesterday, claiming that he had still not found a solicitor to represent him.

Meredydd Hughes, 49, the Chief Constable of South Yorkshire and head of roads policing for the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo), was due to appear at Wrexham Magistrates’ Court charged with driving at 90mph (145km/h)in a 60mph zone.

He was granted an adjournment as he still needed time to instruct a solicitor. Matthew Elliot, chief executive of the Taxpayers’ Alliance, said: “Meredydd Hughes has shown breathtaking hypocrisy in this case.

“Not only has he been caught preaching one thing and doing another in the past, but he has also wasted court time and therefore taxpayers’ money.”

Mr Hughes, who was allegedly caught on camera on the A5, has admitted committing two speeding offences in the past and having six penalty points when taking over the Acpo role.

Zod

35,295 posts

289 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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outrageous.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

248 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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Has he actually hired Nick Freeman, as per your title?

GreenV8S

31,027 posts

315 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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10 Pence Short said:
Has he actually hired Nick Freeman, as per your title?
Doesn't sound like it, but don't let facts get in the way of a bit of Bib bashing.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

281 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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Where does that mention Nick freeman then?

mark69sheer

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3,906 posts

233 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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No the title was an ironic lead in to the story and the reason that meredith Hughes had his case adjourned.
The case was adjourned aparently because he hadn't sorted a solicitor out to defend himself.

Is that normal practice?

If I had a court summons for a particular day could I just keeping telling them I didn't have a solicitor and how many times would I be able to use that excuse.

Wouldn't he as an officer be fed up everytime his own officers waste time going to court only for scroats to get adjourments on lacksadasical grounds.

It really is taking things too far when a person in his position pulls stunts like this.

As for the Bib bashing comment , looks like they are doing plenty to ruin their own reputation here. Doesn't need help from anyone else.

Edited by mark69sheer on Thursday 22 November 16:13

Festisio

772 posts

235 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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Leaving aside the Nick Freeman (lies?) part

I pray the mags throw the book at him, utter bastard.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

248 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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mark69sheer said:
No the title was an ironic lead in to the story and the reason that meredith Hughes had his case adjourned.
The case was adjourned aparently because he hadn't sorted a solicitor out to defend himself.

Is that normal practice?

If I had a court summons for a particular day could I just keeping telling them I didn't have a solicitor and how many times would I be able to use that excuse.

Wouldn't he as an officer be fed up everytime his own officers waste time going to court only for scroats to get adjourments on lacksadasical grounds.

It really is taking things too far when a person in his position pulls stunts like this.

As for the Bib bashing comment , looks like they are doing plenty to ruin their own reputation here. Doesn't need help from anyone else.
So why use a title saying something which just isn't true? It's not ironic, it's just bullsh*t.

As for the adjournment- if he has reasonable grounds as to why he's been too busy since summons to source representation, then the magistrates should take that into account. I feel it's a bit off myself, but hey ho.

Many, many cases are adjourned every single day for a whole host of reasons. It's certainly not unusual at all.

DPX

1,027 posts

231 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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Isnt there a duty solictor to help people at the court ?

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

302 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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DPX said:
Isnt there a duty solictor to help people at the court ?
Yes.

This is an abomination.

He should have been told he had an adjournment for a couple of hours to consult with the Duty Solicitor. That's what you or I would get. If we were lucky.

Something's going on here. It don't smell right.



over_the_hill

3,338 posts

277 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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Is he delaying in the hope that some/all of his existing points will lapse before the case and thus not risk a ban by totting up.

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

302 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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FishFace said:
How did he fail to answer a speeding charge? He did "answer it" or there'd be a warrant out for his arrest. Nice sloppy language.

Also, is he not entitled to the same Court procedures as everyone? Funny they mention tax payer's money as he pays more than most in the Country and certainly more than 99.999999999999 of every other Court users.
Yes Fishface, he's entitled to the same procedure. Which is if you don't have a solicitor, talk to the Duty.

dazren

22,612 posts

292 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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Title changed.

DAZ
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Yung Man

737 posts

236 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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mark69sheer said:
The case was adjourned aparently because he hadn't sorted a solicitor out to defend himself.



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"DEFEND HIMSELF" is he pleading not guilty then?.

DucatiGary

7,765 posts

256 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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dazren said:
Title changed.

DAZ
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hehehe did you mess it up the first time daz ? wink

mark69sheer

Original Poster:

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233 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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10 Pence Short said:
So why use a title saying something which just isn't true? It's not ironic, it's just bullsh*t.
You really have become a troll. Daniel haven't you.

I am not very important at all you know there really is no reason to follow my posts round the board sniping at me.


FiveStar

760 posts

235 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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The question is why he feels he needs a solicitor. Either hes looking into the calibration etc of the camera or hes on 9-11 points.

Either way, morally, he should just plead guilty and take his punishment…

mark69sheer

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Thursday 22nd November 2007
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FishFace said:
Also, is he not entitled to the same Court procedures as everyone? Funny they mention tax payer's money as he pays more than most in the Country and certainly more than 99.999999999999 of every other Court users.
He hasn't actually 'paid' any tax at all.

It allways amazed me when I was in the Army that we paid tax as it allways seemed ridiculous.

Your wage is given to you from the state purse . . and then they employ people to give some back again. I allways thought we should be paid an amount of money at a lower rate untaxed instead.

Of course police fall into this bracket too.
They don't create wealth , they are net users of state funding and so when they pay tax they aren't actually putting anything back into the system at all.

Of course having money deducted from your wage does feel as if you are personally contributing to the country but as mentioned you actually aren't.

My staff that used to work for me and myself manufacture a product adding value to the raw materials. when that sells it creates wealth. the tax then deducted from myself/the staff is a net gain to the government.

When the government startes with a budget in its kitty , pays a state employees wages and then deducts some back the coffers of the country haven't swollen one bit as they have just got back some money they had in their bank in the first place.


Edited by mark69sheer on Thursday 22 November 17:07

DPX

1,027 posts

231 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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"They don't create wealth , they are net users of state funding and so when they pay tax they aren't actually putting anything back into the system at all."


I thought there was a word for this , rather than the nice polite use of english above

hornetrider

63,161 posts

236 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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DPX said:
"They don't create wealth , they are net users of state funding and so when they pay tax they aren't actually putting anything back into the system at all."


I thought there was a word for this , rather than the nice polite use of english above
Leaches? hehe

just a joke, public servant PHers