Some bad news from the Ring
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Northloop forum said:
New, special regulations for the Nurburgring Nordschleife for next year during TouristenFahen.
- All German cars, (which must by law TÜV approved) will be allowed, provided that they can produce TÜV certificates/papers for any modifications on the car on demand
- Non German cars which are standard will be allowed(*)
- Non German cars which are modified will be allowed provided they can produce TÜV certificates/papers for all modifications on demand.
- All German cars, (which must by law TÜV approved) will be allowed, provided that they can produce TÜV certificates/papers for any modifications on the car on demand
- Non German cars which are standard will be allowed(*)
- Non German cars which are modified will be allowed provided they can produce TÜV certificates/papers for all modifications on demand.
can't see them going for that.
half the cars there are foreign now, since the german fuel escalator came in.
it would cost them a fortune. It'll go the same way as the speed cameras...if it comes in at all.
Most likely outcome is a LOCAL MOT certificate...ie Road-legal at point of origin. TUV/MOT
No racers, guess thats what they're after
half the cars there are foreign now, since the german fuel escalator came in.
it would cost them a fortune. It'll go the same way as the speed cameras...if it comes in at all.
Most likely outcome is a LOCAL MOT certificate...ie Road-legal at point of origin. TUV/MOT
No racers, guess thats what they're after
dazren said:
Vixpy1 said:
What is TouristenFahen ?
Public sessions. ie roll up, but a ticket......
Can't see it being a terrible problem, if your car is standard then you will be fine, if not, you flash your mot at them.. since we do not have an TUV..
Or am i being rather niave about the germans
Fidgits said:
GreenV8S said:
Fidgits said:
VTECMatt said:
So that would rule out 90% of British cars.
how do you figure? since the rules only define 'german cars'?
Fidgits said:
GreenV8S said:
Fidgits said:
VTECMatt said:
So that would rule out 90% of British cars.
how do you figure? since the rules only define 'german cars'?More info from the Northloop thread:
northloop said:
1. All German cars on the Ring will require a German TUV (Not strange, as all cars registered for the road in Germany have a TUV, it's like an MOT, don't have it? Don't drive).
2. All standard foreign cars with respective MOT or APK (Dutch) or equivalent will be allowed on the ring. (How do they determine a kit-car is standard??? Or any imported japanese car like an R32 or anything like that!)
3. All cars that have been modified (cage, exhaust, lowering etc etc) will need to carry TUV certificates for these modifications or they will be refused entry to the Ring.
In practice in comes down to this: Have any modifications that are really obvious? (Loud exhaust, rollcage, lowered suspension) Forget about going on the Ring unless you have TUV certificates for these items (German TUV actually calls for certificates of installation, I presume that foreign cars will not need to comply with this as Dutch and English car papers are not meant to be changed as a result of modifications). Power increases (providing they don't make too much noise) are hard to detect, so you probably will not be refused entry to the Ring.
If you buy your aftermarket parts in Germany, or they are made in Germany, chances are they'll have TUV certificates. Contact your supplier or the manufacturer to get a copy.
In my opinion this is a 'ruse' to be able to refuse heavily modified foreign cars. As all cars that drive on public roads in Germany already require TUV, it does not affect the German ringer.
and2. All standard foreign cars with respective MOT or APK (Dutch) or equivalent will be allowed on the ring. (How do they determine a kit-car is standard??? Or any imported japanese car like an R32 or anything like that!)
3. All cars that have been modified (cage, exhaust, lowering etc etc) will need to carry TUV certificates for these modifications or they will be refused entry to the Ring.
In practice in comes down to this: Have any modifications that are really obvious? (Loud exhaust, rollcage, lowered suspension) Forget about going on the Ring unless you have TUV certificates for these items (German TUV actually calls for certificates of installation, I presume that foreign cars will not need to comply with this as Dutch and English car papers are not meant to be changed as a result of modifications). Power increases (providing they don't make too much noise) are hard to detect, so you probably will not be refused entry to the Ring.
If you buy your aftermarket parts in Germany, or they are made in Germany, chances are they'll have TUV certificates. Contact your supplier or the manufacturer to get a copy.
In my opinion this is a 'ruse' to be able to refuse heavily modified foreign cars. As all cars that drive on public roads in Germany already require TUV, it does not affect the German ringer.
northloop said:
Straight from the horses mouth .......
1. As before TUV is required on all German cars. This is the same as at present.
2. For all foreign cars such as the UK ones the cars must be 100% road legal for use in the country you live in. If that is the case and you have your docs (as required now) then you are A - ok.
3. They will however be more strigent on things like reg plates, trade plates, tax discs. If any of the above shows cause for concern then docs will be looked at.
So keep the car road legal, take your docs with you and you will be fine.
1. As before TUV is required on all German cars. This is the same as at present.
2. For all foreign cars such as the UK ones the cars must be 100% road legal for use in the country you live in. If that is the case and you have your docs (as required now) then you are A - ok.
3. They will however be more strigent on things like reg plates, trade plates, tax discs. If any of the above shows cause for concern then docs will be looked at.
So keep the car road legal, take your docs with you and you will be fine.
Fidgits said:
yeah, it appears to be a storm in a teacup - im pretty sure any modified car as long as it has a valid UK MOT will be allowed on the ring.
A Nurburgring official examined a dutch registered Golf which had all the relevant paperwork from Holland. However, the car still would not have been allowed due to the routing of the harness around the cage and the way the straps were attached to the rear shocks strut brace. I guess that clears it up for you and being allowed with an MOT. MOT means jack shit in terms of road worthyness and HaS, and the Germans know it...Gassing Station | Track Days | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff