Slicks on the road
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Purely hypotherical, but lets say that a perfectly road legal car goes to a track day with a set of slicks in the boot. For whatever reason [flat road tyre maybe?] he drives home on the slicks with the road tyres in the boot.
Illegal I'm sure, but if he is stopped what's the score re the law? Obviously no tread, so do you get done as if it was worn tyres all round, or is there something else? Fine, points or what?
All purely hypothetical etc....
WB
Illegal I'm sure, but if he is stopped what's the score re the law? Obviously no tread, so do you get done as if it was worn tyres all round, or is there something else? Fine, points or what?
All purely hypothetical etc....
WB
Err - worse than that. 3 points per illegal tyre = 12 points and a ban.
If you used cut slicks and the cuts were deep enough you could get away with arguing that the cuts were the tread pattern and they deep enough across more than 75% of the tyre. Wouldn't want to try it with plod though.
Back in my younger days I drove a Skoda Estelle rally car from London to Portland Bill and back with a set of (uncut) slicks on. It was dark and stayed dry - and we didn't get stopped. I wouldn't do it again!
If you used cut slicks and the cuts were deep enough you could get away with arguing that the cuts were the tread pattern and they deep enough across more than 75% of the tyre. Wouldn't want to try it with plod though.
Back in my younger days I drove a Skoda Estelle rally car from London to Portland Bill and back with a set of (uncut) slicks on. It was dark and stayed dry - and we didn't get stopped. I wouldn't do it again!
Alan420 said:
You get a fine for a bald tyre. Max £1K I think.
Why doesn't this hyopthetical person just carry a spare tyre like the rest of us?
Because there might be a hypothetical track not too far from home, and he might want to know what he risks if he doesn't change tyres at the end of a session and toodles a few hypothetical miles home on slicks.
WB
If youre stopped with 4 bald tyres on the road you will get points,fine and much worse....a PG9 Prohibition (if theres an Authorised Traffic Officer around).
This means that the vehicle will have to be lifted from the scene....new tyres put on...a new MOT and then a trip to the local Nick to get a PG10 form (removal of Prohibition).
BTW. Just started a Thread on PG9s
>> Edited by tonyrec on Thursday 3rd July 15:58
This means that the vehicle will have to be lifted from the scene....new tyres put on...a new MOT and then a trip to the local Nick to get a PG10 form (removal of Prohibition).
BTW. Just started a Thread on PG9s
>> Edited by tonyrec on Thursday 3rd July 15:58
rsvnigel said:
Size Nine Elm said:
I make that about 15 hypothetical miles
His chances of getting caught would depend what direction he was going 15 miles in
Not really. Cameras and Talivans can't spot slicks. And that's all that
police have... (Edited to say,
above represents a region, not an adjective describing the police... 
although...) >> Edited by Size Nine Elm on Thursday 3rd July 17:13
Size Nine Elm said:
Not really. Cameras and Talivans can't spot slicks. And that's all that
police have a red unmarked vectra and a silver scooby, the vectra seems to stick to the M though. If he was heading in McNabs direction he'd never see plod, the other way is a very different proposition though.
Size Nine Elm said:
Because there might be a hypothetical track not too far from home, and he might want to know what he risks if he doesn't change tyres at the end of a session and toodles a few hypothetical miles home on slicks.
I make that about 15 hypothetical miles
Hypothetically, 16 miles using the Mway, or 14 on backroads, so 15 miles would be a good average hypothesis.
I shall tell my friend it sounds like the hypothetical risks outweigh the hypothetical benefit of getting home 20 minutes earlier.
WB
rsvnigel said:
Not really. Cameras and Talivans can't spot slicks. And that's all that
If he was heading in McNabs direction he'd never see plod, the other way is a very different proposition though.
Hypothetically.
There are two basic wordings ' for Competition use .....' and 'for racing purposes....' Generally slicks fall into the latter but rally moulded slicks which have 2 or 3 sets of grooves fall into the former.
Since racing is prohibited then I assume you could be in trouble with ones that said 'for racing purposes....' but there is a grey area covering the former. One is permitted to use tyres ' for Competition use .....' if one is engaged on competition and some competition uses closed public roads ( eg Jim Clark last weekend ) and others use not closed public road for link sections on rallies specifically authorised under the MSA regulations.
The argument is that a competition car or support car is engaged in competition when trevelling to/from ccompetition, garage etc. Using these tyres is not necessarily a construction and use offence provided the depth of grooves is greater than 1.6mm etc.
The ' for Competition use .....' markings exempt these tyres from E marking which is a legal requirement for the sale of tyres NOT their use.
Since racing is prohibited then I assume you could be in trouble with ones that said 'for racing purposes....' but there is a grey area covering the former. One is permitted to use tyres ' for Competition use .....' if one is engaged on competition and some competition uses closed public roads ( eg Jim Clark last weekend ) and others use not closed public road for link sections on rallies specifically authorised under the MSA regulations.
The argument is that a competition car or support car is engaged in competition when trevelling to/from ccompetition, garage etc. Using these tyres is not necessarily a construction and use offence provided the depth of grooves is greater than 1.6mm etc.
The ' for Competition use .....' markings exempt these tyres from E marking which is a legal requirement for the sale of tyres NOT their use.
I think this may be what youre after:
www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/catalogue/search.asp?keyword=tyres&CLS=all&brand=all&page=2
The formula two tyre sir?
www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/catalogue/search.asp?keyword=tyres&CLS=all&brand=all&page=2
The formula two tyre sir?
deltaf said:
I think this may be what youre after:
www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/catalogue/search.asp?keyword=tyres&CLS=all&brand=all&page=2
The formula two tyre sir?
Damn clever....now where do I get a reasonably priced set of 18" Sport Design wheels...... : D
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