Eco village at long marston airfield?
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DWphil said:
IF they biuld an eco village at Long Marston airfield it will affect SCR as it will not be there any more.
This is the news according to Jerry Cookson:Edited by DWphil on Saturday 24th November 10:46
http://ukdrn.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7...
The Eco-Town in my opinion is a superb idea.
If the government want to do projects like this to help offset peoples contribution to this myth known as global warming then for drag racing at SCR surely it can only be good. Get's the government off their backs? at least for a little while.
Not starting a political discussion here, but if it means we can all be a bit greener than that's all fine with me. I don't know why people complain about wind farms however, I think they are stunning. A apparent 'eyesore' on the countryside, I think they look graceful and really cool!
If the government want to do projects like this to help offset peoples contribution to this myth known as global warming then for drag racing at SCR surely it can only be good. Get's the government off their backs? at least for a little while.
Not starting a political discussion here, but if it means we can all be a bit greener than that's all fine with me. I don't know why people complain about wind farms however, I think they are stunning. A apparent 'eyesore' on the countryside, I think they look graceful and really cool!
NuthinFancy said:
If the government want to do projects like this to help offset peoples contribution to this myth known as global warming then for drag racing at SCR surely it can only be good. Get's the government off their backs? at least for a little while.
I prefer the term climate change - it doesn't specify which aspect and which direction (or try to attribute blame) - and is therefore less biased to begin with. And don't get me started on Heather Mills and her rats milk argument...Anyway Santa Pod seem to be looking in the direction of the green camp with the Alternative Energy race: http://www.aeracing.org/ (as seen on Eurodragster). It really wouldn't take much to convert a methanol burner to a bio-alcohol burner, you could try and get the Fastest Alternative Fuel prize :-)
At the most it'd be a jetting change as I would hazard a guess at the idea air:fuel ratio for ethanol being slightly different from that for methanol as it is a bigger molecule.
Time Machine said:
NuthinFancy said:
If the government want to do projects like this to help offset peoples contribution to this myth known as global warming then for drag racing at SCR surely it can only be good. Get's the government off their backs? at least for a little while.
I prefer the term climate change - it doesn't specify which aspect and which direction (or try to attribute blame) - and is therefore less biased to begin with. And don't get me started on Heather Mills and her rats milk argument...Anyway Santa Pod seem to be looking in the direction of the green camp with the Alternative Energy race: http://www.aeracing.org/ (as seen on Eurodragster). It really wouldn't take much to convert a methanol burner to a bio-alcohol burner, you could try and get the Fastest Alternative Fuel prize :-)
At the most it'd be a jetting change as I would hazard a guess at the idea air:fuel ratio for ethanol being slightly different from that for methanol as it is a bigger molecule.
I should think that depends on whether Natural Gas is allowed (for that is one of the raw materials) and how much energy is required to nitrate the gas. But if Nitro was allowed Methanol probably should be too - I think in keeping with the spirit of the event the alternative fuel should be one that is viable for the man on the street and not more harmful to the environment than traditional hydrocarbon based fuels.
Of course this leads into the debate about the sustainability of biodiesel and bioethanol - deforestation to grow plants which themselves may not even be good for the local environment in order to create these fuels sounds pretty short sighted to me.
Of course this leads into the debate about the sustainability of biodiesel and bioethanol - deforestation to grow plants which themselves may not even be good for the local environment in order to create these fuels sounds pretty short sighted to me.
MotorPsycho said:
Methanol burns at air fuel ratio or around 5.5:1, and Ethanol around 5:1, or the other way round but there isn't much difference
Mark Thomas and a few other IHRA alky funny car racers have run very successfully on ethanol
Mats Westman ran Ethanol in Europe for couple of seasons, in the ex Kagerad / ex Gaspirelli Tempo.Mark Thomas and a few other IHRA alky funny car racers have run very successfully on ethanol
of course even bio ethanol has its drawbacks, incuding the ethical side of burning crops as a fuel, when there are millions around the world starving, not to mention if there the climate is changing, how that would affect crop growth...could you imagine if there was a crop shortage, what that would do to proples travel plans!
MotorPsycho said:
solution; we have huge 'grain mountains' over here from the government giving subsidies to UK farmers and buying the grain even though producers buy grain from foreign lands as it's much cheaper
use these grain mountains to make bio-ethanol, there's farming diversification for you
The process of producing bio fuels uses far more energy than just burning the real stuff in the first place.use these grain mountains to make bio-ethanol, there's farming diversification for you
I am sure there are several hundred interesting 'theories' on how to make the country a better place, save the planet and stop the underclasses taking up valuable space over in 'the pie and piston' most nights, lol
As I saw on the back of one of Nobby's trailers several years ago 'SAVE GAS. BURN NITRO!'
Jon C said:
The process of producing bio fuels uses far more energy than just burning the real stuff in the first place.
This may be true but as die-hard gearheads we need to know there is something else to burn when fossil fuels die out. Wood-fuelled steam powered drag racing anyone? :-)I believe it is possible to distill wood to create methanol (hence the name wood alcohol being used in some parts), leaving behind high-carbon charcoal. Obviously you will need heat to start this process though - the charcoal residue? Now some will say this still results in carbon emmisions - this is true but as long as the wood is from fairly fast growing trees it is a short cycle closed loop so the overall level of carbon remains fairly level. Anyway, that is my crazy idea for the Mad Max days :-)
Jon C said:
As I saw on the back of one of Nobby's trailers several years ago 'SAVE GAS. BURN NITRO!'
That sounds like a 1970's fuel-crisis era slogan. I always liked 'Inside this trailer is a disease for which there is no known cure - Drag Racing' which I think was on the back door of The Mob's trailer.Time Machine said:
Jon C said:
As I saw on the back of one of Nobby's trailers several years ago 'SAVE GAS. BURN NITRO!'
That sounds like a 1970's fuel-crisis era slogan. I always liked 'Inside this trailer is a disease for which there is no known cure - Drag Racing' which I think was on the back door of The Mob's trailer.The Chief Planning Officer of Stratford On Avon District Council has confirmed that the site for possible development is Long Marston MOD and not the airfield.
It would be more helpful if the raceway's PRO dept issues an unequivical statement to confirm that there are no plans to sell off the site either now or in the future for redevelopment for this or any other purpose, rather than just pointing people towards newspapers articles.
For the peace of mind of all those interested in the sport, the land infra-structure makes it impossible to develope the airfield into a housing estate.
It would be more helpful if the raceway's PRO dept issues an unequivical statement to confirm that there are no plans to sell off the site either now or in the future for redevelopment for this or any other purpose, rather than just pointing people towards newspapers articles.
For the peace of mind of all those interested in the sport, the land infra-structure makes it impossible to develope the airfield into a housing estate.
Nitro-besty said:
I thought cows created more methane than most other things, but you never see a cow get told off
All that a cow creates comes from the grass it eats, which soon grows back, drawing carbon, nitrogen etc from the environment around it - most of which is created by the cows. It is a symbiotic cycle with no net change and Heather Mills is relying on false science.As far as the global warming / greenhouse gas / climate change argument goes I'm not going to go and live in a teepee and eat mung beans but at the same time I don't see the point in selfishly destroying things at the expense of others and if I can do something the reduces the impact I have on the planet without making major sacrifices I do. Some people find it hard to reconcile the fact that I go drag racing but also take my recycling to the supermarket, thinking you have to be either a Greenpeace activist or an oil baron. I just see it as being sensible.
And as for saving energy, energy costs money so saving energy is saving money. If that means there is more money left to expend energy on the racetrack then good :-)
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