I learned something new today - blocking driveways
I learned something new today - blocking driveways
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timskipper

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1,306 posts

297 months

Saturday 24th November 2007
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Earlier this evening I reported via e-mail that our driveway (shared by three houses) was blocked by those inconsiderate twunts who live opposite. I started a thread on it a couple of weeks ago.

Anyway I thought 7 cars outside was taking the piss.

I got a response back (Norfolk Police are actually very good at monitoring and responding to e-mail reports):

"Please also call us next time you are stuck in your drive and cannot get onto the highway as this constitutes an offence, whereas blocking access into your drive does not, under the Road Traffic Act."

Odd that the law only replies one way. Useful to know, though.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Saturday 24th November 2007
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timskipper said:
Earlier this evening I reported via e-mail that our driveway (shared by three houses) was blocked by those inconsiderate twunts who live opposite. I started a thread on it a couple of weeks ago.

Anyway I thought 7 cars outside was taking the piss.

I got a response back (Norfolk Police are actually very good at monitoring and responding to e-mail reports):

"Please also call us next time you are stuck in your drive and cannot get onto the highway as this constitutes an offence, whereas blocking access into your drive does not, under the Road Traffic Act."

Odd that the law only replies one way. Useful to know, though.
That's because it's blocking your use of the highway preventing you getting on to it, but it's not once you're on it.

Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 24th November 23:19

Hooli

32,278 posts

231 months

Sunday 25th November 2007
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i heard it stated as it prevents access to the highway for emergancies & so forth, such as a car ride to A&E. would make a sort of sense for the thinking behind it.

WildCat

8,369 posts

274 months

Sunday 25th November 2007
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vonhosen said:
timskipper said:
Earlier this evening I reported via e-mail that our driveway (shared by three houses) was blocked by those inconsiderate twunts who live opposite. I started a thread on it a couple of weeks ago.

Anyway I thought 7 cars outside was taking the piss.

I got a response back (Norfolk Police are actually very good at monitoring and responding to e-mail reports):

"Please also call us next time you are stuck in your drive and cannot get onto the highway as this constitutes an offence, whereas blocking access into your drive does not, under the Road Traffic Act."

Odd that the law only replies one way. Useful to know, though.
That's because it's blocking your use of the highway preventing you getting on to it, but it's not once you're on it.

Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 24th November 23:19
However there ist a remedy by precedent in the civil court on blocking access to one's home. I think also if you have a white solid line painted along the dropped kerb - it also help as this formed basis of this particular dispute as I recall. How I know this? Family legal eagle. It was one of his quirkiest cases so he says. There some obscure point of law which he dredged up apparently. But upshot was that person who was prevented from returning home to tend for sick dependent (who sadly died in hospital 2 month later) has right of access to "his castle" wink

I cannot recall the case ref off top of head just now. I will have to look it up some time or ask the family beagle to refresh memory.n But there exist case law on this issue in civil tort disputes. wink


vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Sunday 25th November 2007
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WildCat said:
vonhosen said:
timskipper said:
Earlier this evening I reported via e-mail that our driveway (shared by three houses) was blocked by those inconsiderate twunts who live opposite. I started a thread on it a couple of weeks ago.

Anyway I thought 7 cars outside was taking the piss.

I got a response back (Norfolk Police are actually very good at monitoring and responding to e-mail reports):

"Please also call us next time you are stuck in your drive and cannot get onto the highway as this constitutes an offence, whereas blocking access into your drive does not, under the Road Traffic Act."

Odd that the law only replies one way. Useful to know, though.
That's because it's blocking your use of the highway preventing you getting on to it, but it's not once you're on it.

Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 24th November 23:19
However there ist a remedy by precedent in the civil court on blocking access to one's home. I think also if you have a white solid line painted along the dropped kerb - it also help as this formed basis of this particular dispute as I recall. How I know this? Family legal eagle. It was one of his quirkiest cases so he says. There some obscure point of law which he dredged up apparently. But upshot was that person who was prevented from returning home to tend for sick dependent (who sadly died in hospital 2 month later) has right of access to "his castle" wink

I cannot recall the case ref off top of head just now. I will have to look it up some time or ask the family beagle to refresh memory.n But there exist case law on this issue in civil tort disputes. wink
Police won't be ticketing or removing vehicles for civil disputes though.
It's not an unnecessary obstruction as per Road traffic law.

s2art

18,942 posts

284 months

Sunday 25th November 2007
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vonhosen said:
WildCat said:
vonhosen said:
timskipper said:
Earlier this evening I reported via e-mail that our driveway (shared by three houses) was blocked by those inconsiderate twunts who live opposite. I started a thread on it a couple of weeks ago.

Anyway I thought 7 cars outside was taking the piss.

I got a response back (Norfolk Police are actually very good at monitoring and responding to e-mail reports):

"Please also call us next time you are stuck in your drive and cannot get onto the highway as this constitutes an offence, whereas blocking access into your drive does not, under the Road Traffic Act."

Odd that the law only replies one way. Useful to know, though.
That's because it's blocking your use of the highway preventing you getting on to it, but it's not once you're on it.

Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 24th November 23:19
However there ist a remedy by precedent in the civil court on blocking access to one's home. I think also if you have a white solid line painted along the dropped kerb - it also help as this formed basis of this particular dispute as I recall. How I know this? Family legal eagle. It was one of his quirkiest cases so he says. There some obscure point of law which he dredged up apparently. But upshot was that person who was prevented from returning home to tend for sick dependent (who sadly died in hospital 2 month later) has right of access to "his castle" wink

I cannot recall the case ref off top of head just now. I will have to look it up some time or ask the family beagle to refresh memory.n But there exist case law on this issue in civil tort disputes. wink
Police won't be ticketing or removing vehicles for civil disputes though.
It's not an unnecessary obstruction as per Road traffic law.
But is Road Traffic Law the only law in question?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Sunday 25th November 2007
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s2art said:
vonhosen said:
WildCat said:
vonhosen said:
timskipper said:
Earlier this evening I reported via e-mail that our driveway (shared by three houses) was blocked by those inconsiderate twunts who live opposite. I started a thread on it a couple of weeks ago.

Anyway I thought 7 cars outside was taking the piss.

I got a response back (Norfolk Police are actually very good at monitoring and responding to e-mail reports):

"Please also call us next time you are stuck in your drive and cannot get onto the highway as this constitutes an offence, whereas blocking access into your drive does not, under the Road Traffic Act."

Odd that the law only replies one way. Useful to know, though.
That's because it's blocking your use of the highway preventing you getting on to it, but it's not once you're on it.

Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 24th November 23:19
However there ist a remedy by precedent in the civil court on blocking access to one's home. I think also if you have a white solid line painted along the dropped kerb - it also help as this formed basis of this particular dispute as I recall. How I know this? Family legal eagle. It was one of his quirkiest cases so he says. There some obscure point of law which he dredged up apparently. But upshot was that person who was prevented from returning home to tend for sick dependent (who sadly died in hospital 2 month later) has right of access to "his castle" wink

I cannot recall the case ref off top of head just now. I will have to look it up some time or ask the family beagle to refresh memory.n But there exist case law on this issue in civil tort disputes. wink
Police won't be ticketing or removing vehicles for civil disputes though.
It's not an unnecessary obstruction as per Road traffic law.
But is Road Traffic Law the only law in question?
What else have you in mind that the Police will take action for (where you are on the road but prevented driving your car on to your property) ?

s2art

18,942 posts

284 months

Sunday 25th November 2007
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vonhosen said:
s2art said:
vonhosen said:
WildCat said:
vonhosen said:
timskipper said:
Earlier this evening I reported via e-mail that our driveway (shared by three houses) was blocked by those inconsiderate twunts who live opposite. I started a thread on it a couple of weeks ago.

Anyway I thought 7 cars outside was taking the piss.

I got a response back (Norfolk Police are actually very good at monitoring and responding to e-mail reports):

"Please also call us next time you are stuck in your drive and cannot get onto the highway as this constitutes an offence, whereas blocking access into your drive does not, under the Road Traffic Act."

Odd that the law only replies one way. Useful to know, though.
That's because it's blocking your use of the highway preventing you getting on to it, but it's not once you're on it.

Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 24th November 23:19
However there ist a remedy by precedent in the civil court on blocking access to one's home. I think also if you have a white solid line painted along the dropped kerb - it also help as this formed basis of this particular dispute as I recall. How I know this? Family legal eagle. It was one of his quirkiest cases so he says. There some obscure point of law which he dredged up apparently. But upshot was that person who was prevented from returning home to tend for sick dependent (who sadly died in hospital 2 month later) has right of access to "his castle" wink

I cannot recall the case ref off top of head just now. I will have to look it up some time or ask the family beagle to refresh memory.n But there exist case law on this issue in civil tort disputes. wink
Police won't be ticketing or removing vehicles for civil disputes though.
It's not an unnecessary obstruction as per Road traffic law.
But is Road Traffic Law the only law in question?
What else have you in mind that the Police will take action for (where you are on the road but prevented driving your car on to your property) ?
Not sure, but there might be other laws to take into account. Preventing a fracas perhaps? Rights of access? Trespass? Causing a disturbance? Behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace? etc.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Sunday 25th November 2007
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s2art said:
vonhosen said:
s2art said:
vonhosen said:
WildCat said:
vonhosen said:
timskipper said:
Earlier this evening I reported via e-mail that our driveway (shared by three houses) was blocked by those inconsiderate twunts who live opposite. I started a thread on it a couple of weeks ago.

Anyway I thought 7 cars outside was taking the piss.

I got a response back (Norfolk Police are actually very good at monitoring and responding to e-mail reports):

"Please also call us next time you are stuck in your drive and cannot get onto the highway as this constitutes an offence, whereas blocking access into your drive does not, under the Road Traffic Act."

Odd that the law only replies one way. Useful to know, though.
That's because it's blocking your use of the highway preventing you getting on to it, but it's not once you're on it.

Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 24th November 23:19
However there ist a remedy by precedent in the civil court on blocking access to one's home. I think also if you have a white solid line painted along the dropped kerb - it also help as this formed basis of this particular dispute as I recall. How I know this? Family legal eagle. It was one of his quirkiest cases so he says. There some obscure point of law which he dredged up apparently. But upshot was that person who was prevented from returning home to tend for sick dependent (who sadly died in hospital 2 month later) has right of access to "his castle" wink

I cannot recall the case ref off top of head just now. I will have to look it up some time or ask the family beagle to refresh memory.n But there exist case law on this issue in civil tort disputes. wink
Police won't be ticketing or removing vehicles for civil disputes though.
It's not an unnecessary obstruction as per Road traffic law.
But is Road Traffic Law the only law in question?
What else have you in mind that the Police will take action for (where you are on the road but prevented driving your car on to your property) ?
Not sure, but there might be other laws to take into account. Preventing a fracas perhaps? Rights of access? Trespass? Causing a disturbance? Behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace? etc.
Not criminal law, you'll have to go civil route but that doesn't immediately alieviate your problem.

tigger1

8,478 posts

252 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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May not be a great course of action - but I know I took to doing it with neighbours shiny Saab that he leaves over the end of my drive sometimes...(I can still get round it though)...just park in front of it, half a whisker from his bumper (with his wife's car behind him).

Oddly, he doesn't seem to park there now wink