ANY TRAFFIC COPS OUT THERE CAN YOU ANSWER THIS
ANY TRAFFIC COPS OUT THERE CAN YOU ANSWER THIS
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rnd

Original Poster:

388 posts

297 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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Hi there, can you answer a queery for me. It is about altering number plates. I know that you can get fined for it but can you get penelty points as well. My daughter has got a set made (they are not very bad but a bit smaller than the limit)and I am worried encase she gets points as she has just got her test and if she gets 6 points in 2 years she looses he books and I do not want to have to be her taxi again.
Thanks
Ray

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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If you are that bothered just get normal size plates...

Less hassle for your daughter getting stopped and fined, means the police can possible go out and catch a real criminal instead...

I doubt if it's her first car and she is a new driver that they will be going on a F430 Scuderia anyway, so I'd save my cash IMHO

rnd

Original Poster:

388 posts

297 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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Hi Bingo, not really the answer I am looking for. It is her first car Renault Clio with the usual sporty bits and she takes after her dad and is a poser and who am I to argue with her. I would guess by your reply you dont have a daughter who is driving yet. your turn will come LOL.

Kinky

39,945 posts

300 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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I guess they would fail the next MOT anyway - so why not get proper plates now and avoid all the aggro.

K

flattotheboards

6,689 posts

237 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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as far as i now you dont get points but you do get a £30 fine.

NiceCupOfTea

25,607 posts

282 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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Don't know what answer you're looking for really. I assume from your post that if it's not a points offence then you'll take the risk, but what's the point?

If they're illegal (be it spacing / size / dodgy font / dodgy spacing) then sooner or later she will be pulled and receive a fine (if not points). And it will fail the MOT.

If they're legal then you don't get any grief (and IMHO plates look much better if they are unadulterated).

If your daughter doesn't want the hassle then get a legal set made. If you're worried about getting it in the ear from your daughter then just leave it up to her!

Can't understand the fuss about plates, its just ID for the car, if you want to stamp your personality on the car then sign the bootlid with a permanent marker wink

Edited by NiceCupOfTea on Monday 26th November 19:39

Kinky

39,945 posts

300 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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Who cares what they look like? She can't see them when she drives and it does not make the car go faster .... unless she's looking for a 1bhp increase by the few milligrammes of weight saved by having a smaller plate/letters?

If she wants the 'fancy plates for meetings/events, then use them as show plates.

K

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

261 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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Okay, well ignoring the right/wrong side of things (which the OP did not ask for opinions on)....

I used to have a 12" x 3" plate on the front of my RX-7. I got pulled by the BiB 3 times for 'routine checks, sir' (yeah right - youngish bloke with a shaved head in a sports car stop more like!), and they did full checks over the car - lights, tyre tread etc etc, and they even looked directly at the plate, and they never mentioned it. It wsas the correct ratio of spacing, correct font, just a little smaller.

If she wants it, let her have it, she's only young once...

Kinky

39,945 posts

300 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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I'll move this to S, P &L where you'll probably get a proper answer.

K

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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Not an endorseable offence.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

301 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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No restriction on physical plate size as long as the plate is normally spaced for the year and the font is the british standard

rnd

Original Poster:

388 posts

297 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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Well said that man. Just to put things right it is not me wanted the plates it is the daughter, yes she is young and probibly foolish but loves her car and wants to put the plates on but does not want the points (think we have all done things like that at the ripe age of 19 with our cars). All I want to know is from "an office of the law" do you get points or not?. Have tried all dvla sites but it does not mention points but that is not to say there is none.

COME ON ALL YOU TRAFFIC GUYS GIVE ME THE FACTS

Edited by rnd on Monday 26th November 20:12

rnd

Original Poster:

388 posts

297 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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Thanks Kinky

Holst

2,468 posts

252 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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rnd said:
Well said that man. Just to put things right it is not me wanted the plates it is the daughter, yes she is young and probibly foolish but loves her car and wants to put the plates on but does not want the points (think we have all done things like that at the ripe age of 19 with our cars). All I want to know is from "an office of the law" do you get points or not?. Have tried all dvla sites but it does not mention points but that is not to say there is none.

COME ON ALL YOU TRAFFIC GUYS GIVE ME THE FACTS

Edited by rnd on Monday 26th November 20:12
I think von has allready answered, no points but you can get a fine.


rnd

Original Poster:

388 posts

297 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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Thanks AJ, you seem to know what you are talking about, I would guess that you may have dealt with a few before.
Thanks
Ray

Kinky

39,945 posts

300 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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Top job AJ thumbup

Well done that man.

K

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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Of course there is the other consideration that her willingness to flout the law on plates may colour the officer's decision in respect of other minor transgressions.
i.e they may decide not to give her the benefit of the doubt over say a minor speeding transgression & that will result in points if reported.

Yeti1

3 posts

241 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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So far, so right.

No points.

£30 fine every time she is stopped.

A VDRF (Defect ticket) is often issued for this, but should not be used for numberplates, as the defect ovbviously existed when the car was driven that day, and din't occur on her journey.

The DVLA can revoke a private plate that is being misrepresented, but you will NOT be issued with a Q plate. Q plates are only given to vehicles of indeterminate age.

Just get plates with a legal font and no background - they'll overlook almost everything else as long as a speed camera (or ANPR) can read it.

PS. Putting messages like "I smell bacon" "It's taxed and MOTd so sod off" and "Grow Your own dope - plant a traffic cop" underneath it won't go down too well either.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

286 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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rnd said:
I would guess by your reply you dont have a daughter who is driving yet. your turn will come LOL.
My daughter isn't old enough to drive yet, but when that time comes I certainly won't be encouraging her to break the law. Young drivers are generally a magnet for police anyway, why give the plod more excuse to stop and and fine?

andoverben

430 posts

271 months

Tuesday 27th November 2007
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The Answer has already been given ie. £30 fine, no Points. However I thought it worth pointing out that if she flutters her eyelids a bit and feigns ignorance she will probably get away with it, the FTO we had had a front Number Plate that was smaller than was legal and between me and my wife we were probably pulled over about 3 times twice was a quiet word and the other was a fine.