Jump starting Griff?
Jump starting Griff?
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rjben

Original Poster:

917 posts

312 months

Tuesday 27th November 2007
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Ok, after slicing my hands to bits trying to connect jump leads to my griff (nice design there TVR!) has anybody got any experience of fitting jumping points else where on the car, say under the bonnet? Any info would be very much appreciated!

I was thinking of getting my mechanic to extend the battery terminal leads through the bulkhead and expose on the inner wing with some suitable termials. Is there an easier connection point than going from the battery, e.g. chassis rail for neutral and live from the starter?

Unfotuantely the car is parked on the street so no opportunity to use a conditioner.

Cheers,

Rob

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Tuesday 27th November 2007
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Search for 'Anderson' plugs. You can fit them under the bonnet or in the footwell.

Personally I prefer small lightweight (5/10a) charger/diagnostic sockets in the boot, undertray and footwell, they will get you in if the battery is flat, and are convenient for charging. If I needed big amps and an anderson connector I think for weight (& safety) that the shorter the cable runs the better so I would stivk the connector on top of the batterywink

Dave

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 27th November 2007
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Leven do a nice kit.

rjben

Original Poster:

917 posts

312 months

Tuesday 27th November 2007
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Cheers gents, that is exactly what I want!

Thanks,

Rob

shpub

8,507 posts

302 months

Tuesday 27th November 2007
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eng622

191 posts

258 months

Tuesday 27th November 2007
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Has anyone fitted a charger socket underneath the car which is safe from the elements. In the boot sounds almost ideal but what if the battery has gone flat enough so you cannot get in to the car to open the boot.

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Tuesday 27th November 2007
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I use 2 way connectors from VWP (similar to the fan connectors), and just make a blanking plug filled with silicone to stick on when not use. One lives in the grill, actually just wedged under the mesh of holes to feed the oil cooler in the undertray, and the other under the bonnet of the Discovery wink I have the same connectors in the boot & footwell all fused and directly connected to the battery - very useful as test points & handy - I also have cig lighter sockets that plug in for phones...

Dave

GreenV8S

31,021 posts

314 months

Tuesday 27th November 2007
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eng622 said:
what if the battery has gone flat enough so you cannot get in to the car to open the boot.
You don't need a battery to get into the car, so that won't be a problem.

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Tuesday 27th November 2007
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GreenV8S said:
eng622 said:
what if the battery has gone flat enough so you cannot get in to the car to open the boot.
You don't need a battery to get into the car, so that won't be a problem.
Ooerrrr yikes are we allowed to mention that hehe

Dave

red griff roger

432 posts

249 months

Wednesday 28th November 2007
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If you are very careful over it (mostly attaching the lead - there are a lot of metallic bits waiting to short), and don't cook (i.e. spin the starter for long), I think you can jump through the alternater +ve feed (biggest nut at the back of the alt). I would not do this if the starter is likely to take a while to fire it up. Quick ping should be OK (other views welcome).

I put a trickle lead in the car simply by wiring in a 5a lead across the battery, and connecting a simple plug. This is long enough to attach the charger easily (don't need to get on my knees) and is also long enough to tuck behind the passenger seat when not in use.

red griff roger

432 posts

249 months

Wednesday 28th November 2007
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spend said:
GreenV8S said:
eng622 said:
what if the battery has gone flat enough so you cannot get in to the car to open the boot.
You don't need a battery to get into the car, so that won't be a problem.
Ooerrrr yikes are we allowed to mention that hehe

Dave
Mechanical, not electric. Just press the door catch

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Wednesday 28th November 2007
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red griff roger said:
Mechanical, not electric. Just press the door catch
Like most I was assuming he meant if the battery ran down whilst the car was locked. Or do Griffs not have door locking? hehe

Dave

GreenV8S

31,021 posts

314 months

Wednesday 28th November 2007
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red griff roger said:
If you are very careful over it (mostly attaching the lead - there are a lot of metallic bits waiting to short), and don't cook (i.e. spin the starter for long), I think you can jump through the alternater +ve feed (biggest nut at the back of the alt). I would not do this if the starter is likely to take a while to fire it up. Quick ping should be OK (other views welcome).

I put a trickle lead in the car simply by wiring in a 5a lead across the battery, and connecting a simple plug. This is long enough to attach the charger easily (don't need to get on my knees) and is also long enough to tuck behind the passenger seat when not in use.
No no no!

You can supply enough current via the alternator wiring to pop the boot release etc (as long as the battery isn't *too* flat), but I would never ever advise trying to start the engine via that. If you don't blow the 100A fuse or set fire to the wires, you'll probably weld the jump lead to the alternator.

Carquake

25 posts

280 months

Thursday 29th November 2007
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When I bought my Griff it already had a Leven charger/jump start lead setup fitted: http://www.leventechnology.co.uk/index.htm so I've no idea how easy it is to instal in the first place.

The connector is mounted on the chassis in front of the engine. I've had to use it a few times recently (while i worked out whether the flat battery was a charging, current leakage or battery fault – think I've sussed it now) and found it easy to use, but I am concerned that the plug end is exposed to the elements. I wonder if there should be a blanking plug to protect it.

Slacey

1,113 posts

244 months

Thursday 29th November 2007
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Carquake said:
I am concerned that the plug end is exposed to the elements. I wonder if there should be a blanking plug to protect it.
You can buy Anderson 'caps' for this (I need one too), I've seen them online somewhere, I'll have a look shortly.

Slacey

1,113 posts

244 months

Thursday 29th November 2007
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Here we go - http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/ProductDeta...
Other suppliers are available wink

LevenTech

207 posts

300 months

Wednesday 5th December 2007
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We supply a cover to fit the Jumpstart plugs both our system and the TVR version. They are not a red rubber boot as used by TVR as we find this traps water in the plug (esp the under sill version). They snap on using the contacts and keep dirt and the worst of the water out still allowing the plug to drain. For more details please call us.