Which of these Cerbs would you choose (if either)?
Discussion
Castle has two Cerb 4.5s for sale at the same price. One is an 03 (Jan) RedRose, the other an 04 non-RedRose
http://www.castlesportscars.co.uk/index.php?mod=se...
In looking at the TVR Power site the RedRose conversion looks extremely extensive and not trivial. What's your view and if you had the choice, which I do, which would you go for - colour combinations aside?
Many thanks in advance for your advice from a soon to be Cerbisti.
http://www.castlesportscars.co.uk/index.php?mod=se...
In looking at the TVR Power site the RedRose conversion looks extremely extensive and not trivial. What's your view and if you had the choice, which I do, which would you go for - colour combinations aside?
Many thanks in advance for your advice from a soon to be Cerbisti.
I would drive them back to back and see if you can tell the difference. If not then buy the one which you like the most (I'm sure you have a preference).
If it was me and they drove pretty much the same bearing in mind I don't think any 2 cerbs drive exactly the same even of equal theoretical spec I would lean towards the newer one mainly beacause a) its newer and quality improved as the years moved on and b) I prefer the interior even though it looks like a bitch to keep clean.
If the red rose drove significantly better I'd buy that one.
not really been much help there have I?
If it was me and they drove pretty much the same bearing in mind I don't think any 2 cerbs drive exactly the same even of equal theoretical spec I would lean towards the newer one mainly beacause a) its newer and quality improved as the years moved on and b) I prefer the interior even though it looks like a bitch to keep clean.
If the red rose drove significantly better I'd buy that one.
not really been much help there have I?
malman said:
I would drive them back to back and see if you can tell the difference. If not then buy the one which you like the most (I'm sure you have a preference).
If it was me and they drove pretty much the same bearing in mind I don't think any 2 cerbs drive exactly the same even of equal theoretical spec I would lean towards the newer one mainly beacause a) its newer and quality improved as the years moved on and b) I prefer the interior even though it looks like a bitch to keep clean.
If the red rose drove significantly better I'd buy that one.
not really been much help there have I?
Sensible advice - you've been a lot of help, thank you. I hear some people say there's no difference between a redrose and a non redrose, and others tell me the differnce is profound. Guess I'm about to find out.If it was me and they drove pretty much the same bearing in mind I don't think any 2 cerbs drive exactly the same even of equal theoretical spec I would lean towards the newer one mainly beacause a) its newer and quality improved as the years moved on and b) I prefer the interior even though it looks like a bitch to keep clean.
If the red rose drove significantly better I'd buy that one.
not really been much help there have I?
As often quoted here, buy on present condition. questions like this are only valid of new cars, of which cerbs are not!
If i was to try and buy a cerb again, this time around I'd probably go to a decent independent whom you trust, and ask them whats the best maintained cerb they know of, then id approach the owner and pay whatever they want, it would be well worth in the long run!.
If i was to try and buy a cerb again, this time around I'd probably go to a decent independent whom you trust, and ask them whats the best maintained cerb they know of, then id approach the owner and pay whatever they want, it would be well worth in the long run!.
. Both these cars have been equally and meticulously maintained, they are both in perfect condition. What I think I'm starting to hear is RedRose ShmedRose doesn't make a difference, have I got that right? In other words if all things are absolutely equal except that one is a RedRose LWT and one is just a standard 4.5 then the decision would be down to just colour combination preferences?
Jappo said:
Both these cars have been equally and meticulously maintained, they are both in perfect condition. What I think I'm starting to hear is RedRose ShmedRose doesn't make a difference, have I got that right? In other words if all things are absolutely equal except that one is a RedRose LWT and one is just a standard 4.5 then the decision would be down to just colour combination preferences?
Ish, the red rose's generally made more power standard, but a remapped/inductioned/exhausted standard 4.5 will only be about 20bhp down, and when you're into numbers as high as 410-430, it really wont make much odds... RUSSELLM said:
The 52 plate is £5k over priced, 4 ownwers, last one for a year. You could argue the RR would add value, but £5k ?
The 54 plate is £500 under book (for a dealer) & 1 owner from new.
It'd be the 54 for me.
My thoughts exactly. Plus the interior of the 54 is the best colour combination but I am a little biased. Has the 54 had any suspension mods as standard shocks will start leaking?The 54 plate is £500 under book (for a dealer) & 1 owner from new.
It'd be the 54 for me.
Only visual downside is the radio aerial positioning, it totally spoils the rear.
Regards
Simon.
SimonKD said:
Only visual downside is the radio aerial positioning, it totally spoils the rear.
Agreed, what were they thinking? The standard antenna doesn't have much 'suck', but replace it with something like a glass-mounted one that's removable and don't drill holes in the car, FFS!Worth remembering that blue ones are always faster though
Hmmmm, current feel always rules for me but intended use could be important. If you're going to have it as an occasinal runabout and a primary Track Rod then the blue RR but if it's going to be a frequently used tool then the later model.
My, unjustified, opinion is that RRs are handgrenades with the pin pulled.
My experience is that number of previous owners is irrelevant. Mine had 258 and it's the mutt's.
I think the year is irrelevant too in terms of resale coz you're going to lose 10,000 as soon as you take them off the forecourt. Resale will also be based on the same questions you're asking so go by individual feel.
It'll be very interesting to know what you decide.
Welcome to Cerbdom insanity anyway !
My, unjustified, opinion is that RRs are handgrenades with the pin pulled.
My experience is that number of previous owners is irrelevant. Mine had 258 and it's the mutt's.
I think the year is irrelevant too in terms of resale coz you're going to lose 10,000 as soon as you take them off the forecourt. Resale will also be based on the same questions you're asking so go by individual feel.
It'll be very interesting to know what you decide.
Welcome to Cerbdom insanity anyway !
Edited by Mr.Cerbera on Sunday 2nd December 12:46
BCA said:
actually, I've just had a thought - may be worth checking who the previous owners of the blue car were... im wondering if its PH'er "Washy"s old Cerb, in which case - that would be the pick of the two - its got sorted suspension + packs a healthy 438bhp/380lb ft(IIRC) standard?!!
Nope not mine!Have you considered this one Jappo ?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/280132.htm
You could get some decent upgrades with your £10k change A bit of haggling might make it £11k.
It's almost certainly going to be over 350bhp unlike the std 4.5, and you could always get a 4.5 upgrade to go with your nice 4.2 intakes.
If I was after another Cerb, it's the one that stands out to me.
Registered March 03, 2 owners, last one for three years.
Presume it's HPI clear ?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/280132.htm
You could get some decent upgrades with your £10k change
A bit of haggling might make it £11k.It's almost certainly going to be over 350bhp unlike the std 4.5, and you could always get a 4.5 upgrade to go with your nice 4.2 intakes.
If I was after another Cerb, it's the one that stands out to me.
Registered March 03, 2 owners, last one for three years.
Presume it's HPI clear ?
Edited by RUSSELLM on Tuesday 4th December 10:53
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