Someone left the scene of an accident
Someone left the scene of an accident
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SpeedIsProgress

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233 posts

230 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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Hi, this morning on my way to work someone in a crappy hatchback didn't like being over taken up a NSL hill, its about a mile of straight, no cars traveling in the other direction, and he was well in the distance when I had finished. 2 mins later when I catch up with a some other traffic, this little prick starts tailgating me to the point he actually drives into the back of my car. When I pulled over, he accelerated past me, I followed him to attempt to get his number plate. We reached a golf course where he proceeded to jump out of the car and start shouting at me.

In his shouting he confirmed that this golf course was his place of work, and why did I overtake him in the first place. I know most of his number plate.

I have yet to be able to asses if there is any damage to my car as it was dark. I rung the golf course in which he works, and the manager refused to confirm if the number plate I tried to remember was correct.

Firstly, why can't someone accept that a 2.5 litre BMW is going to be faster than their 1.2 corsa or equivilent, and let them on their way? I didn't consider myself trying to race him but I am traveling faster, so I am within my rights to overtake?

If you have an impact with another car surely you are obliged to stop 'at the scene of the accident'?

Basically two questions,
1. Are the police going to follow this up if I contact them?
2. If I find there is no damage, is it still worth contacting them to teach this child a lesson?

Tim S

175 posts

240 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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The police can't do much if you don't have the full registration of the car which hit you, so make sure you've obtained it one way or another before you contact them.

If I was you I'd check the back of your car very carefully to see if the bumper has been pushed in. If it has there may be hidden damage behind it.

Good luck, whatever you decide to do!

Cat

3,134 posts

300 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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SpeedIsProgress said:
If you have an impact with another car surely you are obliged to stop 'at the scene of the accident'?
Only if it's a reportable accident i.e. if the vehicle involved causes:-
  • Injury to a person other than the driver of that vehicle
  • damage to a another vehicle
  • injury to an animal not carried in that vehicle
  • damage to other property on or near the road
If for any reason the driver fails to stop they must report the accident in person at a police station or personally to a constable as soon as reasonably practicable and in any case with in 24 hours

SpeedIsProgress said:
Basically two questions,
1. Are the police going to follow this up if I contact them?
2. If I find there is no damage, is it still worth contacting them to teach this child a lesson?
1. They should do if there is damage to your car and the other driver has failed to stop or failed to report the accident.
2. If there is no damage then no offence has been committed by failing to stop or report the accident.

supermono

7,464 posts

279 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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I can't believe there wasn't a handy 4 iron to clout him with.

HTH.

SM

Frederick

5,906 posts

251 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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when I was involved in a failing to stop after an accident (bloke swiped the front of my car), I got the reg, told the police and all that was done was they did a PNC check, told me his details and "We are taking no further action"...

no "we have arrested the driver for failure to stop" or anything...

Frederick

5,906 posts

251 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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they didn't give me them there and then, they gave me the details of the driver in a letter about two months later (which I still have) after "tracing" him, and that was that...

Marki

15,763 posts

301 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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Frederick said:
when I was involved in a failing to stop after an accident (bloke swiped the front of my car), I got the reg, told the police and all that was done was they did a PNC check, told me his details and "We are taking no further action"...

no "we have arrested the driver for failure to stop" or anything...
The Police in the UK are a ing joke rolleyes

Hooli

32,278 posts

231 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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my course of action would be,
back to golf course to confirm reg, im sure you'd regonise the car considering
call plod & report refusal to swop details. just say your car is booked into a bodyshop for esimate of any damage you recieved.
plently of people out there who wouldnt know a bent floor if they saw it so its a valid statement.


ETA: had similar happen years ago when i had a landrover, except it wrote off the car that drove under my rear bumper with zero damage to my car. he then drove off so i reported him. bad day for the prat eh?

Edited by Hooli on Tuesday 4th December 16:35

mark69sheer

3,906 posts

233 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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My wife had her car hit by a lady in a BMW .
She initially stopped until my wife asked her for her insurance details.
She then got abusive and drove off.
We had the ladies reg number so we reported her to the police.
The police came to see my wife and explained that the lady hadn't stopped because she didn't realise she had hit anything.
I decided that it was then a perfect time to reveal the contents of a cardboard box I had in my possesion.
Inside were both of the BMW's wing mirrors smashed of as the BMW driver had tried to drive at speed between my wifes car and some parked cars.

Despite this the Police still took no action against the BMW driver and just simply passed the other drivers insurance details to us.

SpeedIsProgress

Original Poster:

233 posts

230 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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Thanks for your suggestions, Just got a torch out and had an inspection, there is not much damage, just a small crack on the nearside of the bumper.

Makes my blood boil though, think I am going to contact the police anyway. Perhaps they will have a word with him and he will calm down... I just hope he doesn't do the same again, causing someone to get injured.

I also wonder what will happen if I end up in front of the same guy again...

aw51 121565

4,773 posts

264 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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1. With regard to going to the police, there'd be no "think" about it if it was me. What if the other party get there first and lie? Mmm, back foot...

2. If the same person comes up behind you, they probably won't even recognise you. Several people I've had run-ins with in terms of attempted road rage against me on my morning drive to work fail to recognise my (quite recognisable due to rarity on the roads, 1980s saloon) car, one particular case is a power-dressed female piloting a 53-plate silver Celica who tries to run me off the road or drive into the side of my car once a month on average then starts on the horn-blowing and gesticulation when I'm in the way and audibly warn of my presence rolleyes (I can't work out if she's thick as pigsh!t or just assumes she's superior to me by dint of her car being faster and newer than mine...).

They're not paying attention to what they are doing or who they are doing it to as they are so consumed by 'whatever' - and are usually very slow learners wink .

g_attrill

9,162 posts

277 months

Wednesday 5th December 2007
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Cat said:
Only if it's a reportable accident i.e. if the vehicle involved causes:-
  • Injury to a person other than the driver of that vehicle
  • damage to a another vehicle
  • injury to an animal not carried in that vehicle
  • damage to other property on or near the road
If for any reason the driver fails to stop they must report the accident in person at a police station or personally to a constable as soon as reasonably practicable and in any case with in 24 hours
No, you MUST always stop after any accident in the categories you list, reporting the accident is never an alternative to stopping, however it's only required in cases where details were not exchanged at the scene, and in the case of on injury accident where an insurance certificate wasn't produced. In practice the police always seem to attend an injury accident and deal with the paperwork.



Edited by g_attrill on Wednesday 5th December 12:54

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Wednesday 5th December 2007
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supermono said:
I can't believe there wasn't a handy 4 iron to clout him with.

HTH.

SM
You'd be better off with a Sand Wedge - the heavier head and shorter shaft would increase the damage caused to his cranium.

HTH

ajcj

798 posts

236 months

Wednesday 5th December 2007
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Surely a wood shot? Longer shaft = greater impact speed, and you're further away, so less chance of getting blood on your trousers.

If you do use a sand wedge, I'd say keep the wrists straight and swing from the shoulders, keeping the left foot pointed towards the target, and don't lift the head until you're well in to the follow-through.

MK4 Slowride

10,028 posts

239 months

Wednesday 5th December 2007
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SpeedIsProgress said:
Firstly, why can't someone accept that a 2.5 litre BMW is going to be faster than their 1.2 corsa or equivilent, and let them on their way? I didn't consider myself trying to race him but I am traveling faster, so I am within my rights to overtake?
Being in a BMW and almost everyone being prejudice against BMW drivers he got very jealous as your in a proper drivers car and he's got to be in front of you, also not letting anyone overtake as it reduces his street cred.