All new STI or EVO X ??? Latest Tsukuba lap times!!!
All new STI or EVO X ??? Latest Tsukuba lap times!!!
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loveice

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Thursday 6th December 2007
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Evil.soup

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228 months

Thursday 6th December 2007
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That is interesting, i wonder if the UK Sti will be as good as the JDM version??

To tell the truth, i think they have both gone a bit soft though.

Smifffy

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289 months

Friday 7th December 2007
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autoblog people said:
"Neither car is quite as quick as its immediate ancestor though."
And the point is.... tumbleweed


Edited by Smifffy on Friday 7th December 00:09

GravelBen

16,327 posts

253 months

Friday 7th December 2007
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Not much of a surprise really when the Evo has put on 150kg over the old one. The STI on the other hand is apparently slightly lighter than the old and with a lower c.o.g, but was still slower round the track. May be also partly the conditions weren't as good for a quick laptime on the day though (just speculating on that).

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

249 months

Friday 7th December 2007
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I'd like to see the old STi verses the new STi at the same track that way it doesn't matter what the conditions are. Never mind the EVO bollox although i still like the look of it, are Scooby fans getting more bang and performance per buck/bhp or not??

It is better than the old one....and i'm not talking looks. If the old 265bhp STi is quicker than the new 300bhp STi round a track or in a straight line then i know where my money would be going.

If so..... a 265bhp 2007 STi beefed up to 300bhp would murder the new hatchback STi. Hang on to your old Scooby's, i stick to what i have said in the past..... residuals on old scooby's will hold fast!!

Evil.soup

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228 months

Friday 7th December 2007
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ScoobieWRX said:
I'd like to see the old STi verses the new STi at the same track that way it doesn't matter what the conditions are. Never mind the EVO bollox although i still like the look of it, are Scooby fans getting more bang and performance per buck/bhp or not??

It is better than the old one....and i'm not talking looks. If the old 265bhp STi is quicker than the new 300bhp STi round a track or in a straight line then i know where my money would be going.

If so..... a 265bhp 2007 STi beefed up to 300bhp would murder the new hatchback STi. Hang on to your old Scooby's, i stick to what i have said in the past..... residuals on old scooby's will hold fast!!
I agree mate, the well known scoob design is dead and this new car has to drive your socks off to become more desirable than the outgoing car. If it cant do that, i have to be honest i wouldnt be too concerned with residuals on the car i have nowsmile

GravelBen

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253 months

Friday 7th December 2007
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265 bhp STi roflrofl


Not in a JDM car its not, the official "280" is considered by most to be more like 300+, and then theres always the off-chance that last years test was (for example) Spec-C vs Evo RS.


wink Bloody whinging poms tongue out

ScoobieWRX

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249 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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Ben.... I'm talking British/EDM cars mate!!! Not JDM tongue out

Not forgetting we always get the raw end of the deal with official UK spec cars being well underpowered and under specced compared to JDM. Then we have to turn to companies like Prodrive to beef them up for us so they are as good as the JDM spec cars or buy an import.

Best get back to the sheep now Ben...they're waiting to be turned into NZ Lamb for whinging pom's dinner plates!! Maybe while you're at it you could knock down a few sheep with that old cart of yours and send them over, maybe a few kiwi fruit too if you haven't eaten them all tongue outbiglaughtongue out

GravelBen

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253 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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Given that the thread topic was Tsukuba lap times I somehow think they weren't using UK/EU cars... tongue out Fair enough that you'll compare them with what you get though, but hey your new STi might still only have 265 bhp too wink

PS prefer eating the sheep myself even if it means less to send over for you lot wink

Edited by GravelBen on Saturday 8th December 04:31

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

249 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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To be honest Ben it doesn't matter to me too much how the jdm versions get on although it's nice to know i suppose that it's a bit quicker than the EVO, and although we were talking about Tsukuba and JDM i was more directing my comments RE: EDM cars biggrin

THe EDM version coming in 2009 i believe will actually be 300bhp (which i heard from my local Subaru stealership) although you never know about these things so we'll wait and see on that one. It would be good though to match the JDM cars as then power upgrades to 400bhp aren't so much of a big thing and hopefully would cost a bit less than trying to get the old STi upto the same levels.

As for the sheep.....I prefer NZ Lamb to Aussie Lamb of which i had a leg of recently, and it wasn't anywhere near as nice as the NZ. NZ Lamb is much more succulent and tasty, so....don't eat them all please, and leave some for whinging poms yumtongue outbiggrin