Hot Shoe Flash worth it?
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2jamesl

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Saturday 8th December 2007
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Hello All,

Title is fairly self explanatory, are hot shoe flashes worth the money?

Gingerbread Man

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Saturday 8th December 2007
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Depends what you are shooting?

2jamesl

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Saturday 8th December 2007
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Well personally, i am going to New York Soon, so scenery, landscapes, cars, parties, sports, birds, mixture really but mainly automotive events

GetCarter

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310 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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I do bugger all work with flash, but occasionally (like this week) I get asked to do indoor stuff. I have a Nikon hot shoe speedlight, and the ability to change direction/pitch of flash is the only reason I don't hate it. It also does fairly clever stuff TTL so tries hard to help you out.

With a bit of practice and some bracketing I can usualy muster up a shot that doesn't look like the subject has been whitewashed!

This weeks pic (using said hot show flash) which appeared in four Scottish newspapers today:
(click on it to lose the 'squash')



ETA... yes, you guessed - it's Lord of the Rings.

Edited by GetCarter on Saturday 8th December 14:53

V6GTO

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Saturday 8th December 2007
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2jamesl said:
are hot shoe flashes worth the money?
Yes. Nuff said.

Martin.

2jamesl

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Saturday 8th December 2007
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V6GTO said:
2jamesl said:
are hot shoe flashes worth the money?
Yes. Nuff said.

Martin.
Hah, thanks martin smile

Any chance you could do some kind of example?

Say, photo with and without?

would be greatly appreciated!

thank you

GetCarter

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Saturday 8th December 2007
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2jamesl said:
Say, photo with and without?

would be greatly appreciated!

thank you
FYI - photo above with flash... photo below - the flash didn't fire.

Bit of a differnce, I think you'll agree.


V6GTO

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Saturday 8th December 2007
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Thanks for that, Steve...you saved me some work laugh

Martin.

fluffnik

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Saturday 8th December 2007
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Yes, especially if it has a bounce facility.

I have an ancient Nissin 360TW, like this:


You can tilt the larger flash up and pivot it side to side, the smaller fill flash can be switched off.

You can light quite a large area beneath a white ceiling with bounce only:


Edited by fluffnik on Saturday 8th December 19:55

2jamesl

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Saturday 8th December 2007
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GetCarter said:
2jamesl said:
Say, photo with and without?

would be greatly appreciated!

thank you
FYI - photo above with flash... photo below - the flash didn't fire.

Bit of a differnce, I think you'll agree.

Hah, i meant with hot shoe flash and with normal flash biggrin

V6GTO

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Saturday 8th December 2007
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Hot shoe is normal hehe

GetCarter

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Saturday 8th December 2007
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V6GTO said:
Hot shoe is normal hehe
Agreed. I think he means the differnce between a 'normal' hot shoe flash and those abominations that they build into some camera's bodies (which are of course, mostly crap - although they do at least (and at last) allow you to regulate the amount of light).

Gemm

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Saturday 8th December 2007
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Even better if you can use it off-camera. smile


bramley

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Saturday 8th December 2007
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GetCarter said:
V6GTO said:
Hot shoe is normal hehe
... and those abominations that they build into some camera's bodies (which are of course, mostly crap - although they do at least (and at last) allow you to regulate the amount of light).
Thankfully I don't have one of those biggrin I had one on my 350d and it never once produced a result I was happy with.

Hot shoe flash is well worth the money (I got a Canon 430ex for £160ish) and I'd recommend it to anyone that ever needs to use flash, instead of using the built-in things as they are a last resort and generally things up.

CivicMan

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232 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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Hot shoe excellent so long as you use a Stofen diffuser or similar with the flash in an upright tilt position. Softens all those shadows and makes the on camera flash quite acceptable.

Scho

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Saturday 8th December 2007
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yeah. get one and buy yourself a soften to use with it.




CivicMan

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Saturday 8th December 2007
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Nice example Scho - makes my point beautifully!

2jamesl

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Saturday 8th December 2007
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V6GTO said:
Hot shoe is normal hehe
haha, Im starting to make myself look like an idiot here!

Also can you use the lens hood with a hot shoe flash with it being higher up that the crap built in thing?

Edited by 2jamesl on Saturday 8th December 19:28

GetCarter

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Saturday 8th December 2007
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2jamesl said:
V6GTO said:
Hot shoe is normal hehe
haha, Im starting to make myself look like an idiot here!

Also can you use the lens hood with a hot shoe flash with it being higher up that the crap built in thing?

Edited by 2jamesl on Saturday 8th December 19:28
It'll be much higher up, so hoods are not a problem.

pauljc

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268 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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A hot shoe flash is worth getting.

Edited by pauljc on Saturday 8th December 20:44