Whining noise
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SchimmS

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258 posts

287 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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Guys,

had a first ride today with the new LS7 installation and after a couple of miles it started making quite scary noises. I`m pretty sure that it`s not the engine, the noise comes from the clutch housing. It`s a screaming noise (no rattling) as soon as the engine starts, clutch engaged or not...

Any suggestions where to begin?

donkeasy

636 posts

251 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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hanging starter?

SchimmS

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258 posts

287 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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Hey Joop,

how could I possibly find out if it`s the starter? I can start the engine easily and I`m pretty sure it began during the drive...

martinlaw

283 posts

251 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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Could be the release bearing - if it is, very simple to fix

is the fly wheel binding?

Martin.

SchimmS

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258 posts

287 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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Martin, what do you mean by binding?

martinlaw

283 posts

251 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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Could be the release bearing - if it is, very simple to fix

is the fly wheel binding?

Martin.

SchimmS

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258 posts

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Sunday 9th December 2007
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How can the release bearing make such a terrible noise? I`m sure I fitted everything correctly in the gearbox, before the testdrive I couldn`t hear a thing from the gearbox, all was very quiet as it should be (except for the engine of course)

crafty

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266 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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If its a really bad whining noise, perhaps you'd better check if my ex-girlfriend is in your car.


San Diego GTR

469 posts

236 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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Could it be the pilot bearing? If its not the starter as mentioned above, you'll have to slide it apart to investigate. I bet the pilot bearing was put in backwards.

Paul

Steve_D

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287 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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San Diego GTR said:
Could it be the pilot bearing? If its not the starter as mentioned above, you'll have to slide it apart to investigate. I bet the pilot bearing was put in backwards.

Paul
It will not be the pilot bearing as the noise is still there with the clutch engaged.

My vote is the release bearing but will not be just a simple lack of grease type thing. I think this will be something like lack of clearance in the new LS install/adaptor plate.

Steve

crafty

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266 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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Where's your adaptor plate from? Could it be a dimensional problem with that?

SlackBlevens

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226 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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Try leaving the missus at home next time - usually does the trick! hehe

SchimmS

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287 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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There were no women allowed on that short drive - they tend to bring too much baggage even on the shorted trip (i.e. weight).

It can`t be the adapter plate as I used the same one that was installed on the prvious engine (LS6), it basically was a plug-and-play swap. Maybe I can upload a soundfile but it isn`t a pleasure to listen to it.

What ways are there to find out if it`s the starter or the release bearing?

Thanks!

Steve_D

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Sunday 9th December 2007
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SchimmS said:
.....It can`t be the adapter plate as I used the same one that was installed on the prvious engine (LS6), it basically was a plug-and-play swap. ......
The adaptor may have worked on the previous engine but are you sure the crank does not extend further or is the flywheel different.

Steve

SchimmS

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Sunday 9th December 2007
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Steve_D said:
SchimmS said:
.....It can`t be the adapter plate as I used the same one that was installed on the prvious engine (LS6), it basically was a plug-and-play swap. ......
The adaptor may have worked on the previous engine but are you sure the crank does not extend further or is the flywheel different.

Steve
I left everything unchanged, used the same clutch assy, same gearbox. When maneuvering the car in the garage with the engine running everything sounded ok. If I remember correctly the reverse gear couldn`t be engaged for a while after the noise started until it eventually slid in...

Steve_D

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Sunday 9th December 2007
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Is the gear linkage fouling the rear grill and trying to select a different gear whilst driving. Reverse would be one of the worst gears.

Steve

SchimmS

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Sunday 9th December 2007
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Steve_D said:
Is the gear linkage fouling the rear grill and trying to select a different gear whilst driving. Reverse would be one of the worst gears.

Steve
The gearbox is cable operated...

SchimmS

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258 posts

287 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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San Diego GTR said:
Could it be the pilot bearing? If its not the starter as mentioned above, you'll have to slide it apart to investigate. I bet the pilot bearing was put in backwards.

Paul
Paul, I wasn`t aware that the pilot bearing could be intalled in two ways. Could this actually cause such a noise? As I started the engine again yesterday (i.e. it was cold) the noise was gone...
Any more hints?

Edited by SchimmS on Monday 10th December 08:48

martinlaw

283 posts

251 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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could still be the release bearing as when on the way out they tend to squeal when hot.

My Sport made a strange noise when I put a new clutch in - it turned out to be the fly wheel lightly scraping the inside of the bell housing. The noise became worse when it became hot.

Martin