How to take wax off of you paintwork
How to take wax off of you paintwork
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RemaL

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25,103 posts

264 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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Going to put Ventureshield on the Triple. looked at it in the past and have been impressed with it. had a good chat to them at the NEC.

So I was told I need to take of the wax of the paintwork.

I have been told by a few people to use brake cleaner in a rag thats wet!!!!!!!!!!

So does anyone else know of another way that does not scare the shit out of me. I know what brake fluid can do to paint and really don't like the thought of using it

cheers

Carl-H

947 posts

236 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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Fairy washing up liquid. Meant to strip the wax off it but don't use it unless your going to wax it straight after.

Stu R

21,673 posts

245 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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go to any bodyshop or paint shop / supplier and get yourself some panelwipe. Brilliant stuff and won't damage the paint at all. It's only a few quid.


BobM

944 posts

285 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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Autoglym motorcycle cleaner seems to do a pretty good job of it.

RemaL

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25,103 posts

264 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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Stu R said:
go to any bodyshop or paint shop / supplier and get yourself some panelwipe. Brilliant stuff and won't damage the paint at all. It's only a few quid.
interesting. shall look for this, and as for the washing up liquid. I would be taking the wax off. butting on the ventureshield then waxing once this is dry. would that be OK

Stu R

21,673 posts

245 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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is Ventureshield the precut stick on plastic?
If so I'd expect that would be fine mate. Obviously it won't look as deep and glossy as properly treated paint will but it'll still respond to a good polish and wax.

If you wanted it looking at it's absolute best, you could have a word with a local professional detailler about having it done before the venture shield is put on. You'll be surprised what some minor paint correction can do to the newest paintwork, getting it to a mirror finish so it's always at it's best under the venture shield.


RemaL

Original Poster:

25,103 posts

264 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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Stu R said:
is the precut stick on plastic?
If so I'd expect that would be fine mate. Obviously it won't look as deep and glossy as properly treated paint will but it'll still respond to a good polish and wax.

If you wanted it looking at it's absolute best, you could have a word with a local professional detailler about having it done before the venture shield is put on. You'll be surprised what some minor paint correction can do to the newest paintwork, getting it to a mirror finish so it's always at it's best under the venture shield.
now new to this but just want my new paint to look its best. the Ventureshield is about £90 so for a new bike no probs. So by getting a detailler to "have it done" you mean????

Sorry As I said new to this. I either use the 3 step meguires or 3 step plus 1 onthe mothers cleaner, pre wax, etc.....

so willing to find out more and learn

Stu R

21,673 posts

245 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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Sorry, my fault for not being more clear really, was suggesting you have someone give it a professional clean and polish etc so you get it looking at it's absolute best before you put the VS film over it.
Basically it's the next step up from what you're doing now with regards to the meguiars 3 stage paint clean / polish / wax.
New paint looks good but it's often the case where it can be made better, with a proper wash, machine polish with a porter cable polisher and so on to make it like glass, really makes all the difference and because you won't need the various expensive waxes and so in, and it's a bike, it shouldn't cost too much.

Get yourself over to www.detailingworld.com mate, sounds like you're already enthusiastic with regards to keeping it clean and shiney, they're obsessive with it biggrin

Carl-H

947 posts

236 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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I went to detailing world once. It cost me loads. I'm trying not to go back again.

RemaL

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25,103 posts

264 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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Stu R said:
Sorry, my fault for not being more clear really, was suggesting you have someone give it a professional clean and polish etc so you get it looking at it's absolute best before you put the VS film over it.
thanks for the link and info BUT I was told you need to take off all the polish/wax etc... before you add the VS??

thats what VS told be at the NEC show.

and I shall get myself more infoemd very soonthumbup

again cheers for the link

A1ec

267 posts

235 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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If you're going to the expense of paying £90 for the Ventureshield and you're thinking of having a detailer bring the paintwork up to pristine condition prior to fitting it, couldn't you get the detailer to apply it for you and then wax it up professionally afterwards?

May as well have the best job done if you're paying out all this money.

Speed addicted

6,335 posts

257 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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I used a solvent wipe to strip the wax off, the venture shield instructions will involve soapy water too.
I found the bellypan to be the worst bit to do, afer the cowl above the clocks, the rest of the sections on the triple were reasonably flat.
Just keep working the film to get it to stretch round the curver bits, swearing lots seemed to help too...

Stu R

21,673 posts

245 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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Speed addicted said:
I used a solvent wipe to strip the wax off, the venture shield instructions will involve soapy water too.
I found the bellypan to be the worst bit to do, afer the cowl above the clocks, the rest of the sections on the triple were reasonably flat.
Just keep working the film to get it to stretch round the curver bits, swearing lots seemed to help too...
Off topic but can I ask how long it took you to fit?

Speed addicted

6,335 posts

257 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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Flippin ages!! (about 2 hours all in I think)

I did the cowl above the headlight first, and it curves in two dirctions so I found it pretty difficult to get the film to stick, fingers kept appearing where the film needed stretching to fit the contours. I re-did this part about 4 times untill I was happy with the results.
It's pretty frustrating when it's all in place and you notice a bubble you've missed then need to remove and re-do.

The flatter sections like the back of the tank are pretty simple, you just squeegie the water out from the middle.

After fitting you can't really tell the film is on unless you're looking closely, it's very transparent and you can only really see the edges close up.

Good stuff but you need some patience (I have very limited reserves)

Silent1

19,762 posts

265 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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I thought the general plan was smother it in soapy water, slide the sticker into place and squeege from the middle out, thereby negating all large bubbles. Then despatch the small bubbles with a very small pin / hypodermic needle.

RemaL

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25,103 posts

264 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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well thanks all for the replys, I will get in cantact with a detailer I know in the nbew year to see what he can do for me. as I will see if I can get the panel wipes if I need them,

podman

9,085 posts

270 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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It seems good stuff but expensive…ive got 2 types of plastic film I use…one is about 1.5mm think and available from motorx shops, I use that on the leading edges of the belly pan and the immediate edge of the fairing a few inches above the belly pan, the other film I used is like a stick on vinyl, this I use elsewhere .

It isn’t precut like the venture shield stuff but you can buy both films for about £10 and they do a great job.

Speed addicted

6,335 posts

257 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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Silent1 said:
I thought the general plan was smother it in soapy water, slide the sticker into place and squeege from the middle out, thereby negating all large bubbles. Then despatch the small bubbles with a very small pin / hypodermic needle.
Yup, but when you're preoccupied with gedtting the edges right and don't notice a bubble it's pretty annoying!

rev-erend

21,624 posts

314 months

Wednesday 19th December 2007
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Stu R said:
paint shop / supplier and get yourself some panelwipe. Brilliant stuff and won't damage the paint at all. It's only a few quid.
Someone like Brown Brothers..

Make sure you have marigolds on .. stuff like this takes the oil off your hans and brings on dermatitus quicker than a quick thing .. you can use kitchen paper towels for the panel wipe.