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sam.r

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2,379 posts

259 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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How advanced are these 'sticks' you guys carry?

I've just been watching one of these police programs and was wondering, can they break glass? If a driver locked himself in a car does it take long to smash?



Carnage

889 posts

263 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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sam.r said:
How advanced are these 'sticks' you guys carry?

I've just been watching one of these police programs and was wondering, can they break glass? If a driver locked himself in a car does it take long to smash?
Depends on how you hit it - windows either go suprisingly easily or be a nightmare. Hooly bars are better...

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

280 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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Watched a programme on car thieves some time back and one ex thief demonstrated how to break the side glass with a small road chipping stone,just by throwing with power. eek

Sheriff JWPepper

3,851 posts

235 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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Only ever used it once to 'adjust' a traffic light that had been hit by a HGV.

They're pretty sturdy things, would imagine side windows would be no problem, laminated windscreens could take a bit of work.

Silent1

19,762 posts

266 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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With an impact device / window breaker / small stone, you always want to hit in the corner of the window causing the shock to reflect back as it takes less effort then.

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

275 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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I still have my trug..trunch..trunge...wooden stick that used to fit in my special right hand pocket and dangle down the side of my leg (steady girls). Source of enjoyment on night was bowling at stray dogs and moggies to see how high they would jump. Never did use it anger - a wet towel leaves no marks...

dvd

silverback mike

11,293 posts

284 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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Carnage said:
sam.r said:
How advanced are these 'sticks' you guys carry?

I've just been watching one of these police programs and was wondering, can they break glass? If a driver locked himself in a car does it take long to smash?
Hooly bars are better...
Oh yes cloud9 other than the red 'key' my favourite bit of kit.

sam.r

Original Poster:

2,379 posts

259 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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Whats a hooly bar??


911 Turbo

77 posts

274 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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sam.r said:
Whats a hooly bar??
Link below takes you to one sort of hooli bar

http://www.botachtactical.com/suhatostde.html

One type of red key is on this link

http://www.botachtactical.com/dynenthunram.html

Older UK red keys have two handles on them and are usually painted red!

Both extremely useful bits of kit for gaining entry to premises.

Derek Smith

50,013 posts

279 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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Dwight VanDriver said:
I still have my trug..trunch..trunge...wooden stick that used to fit in my special right hand pocket and dangle down the side of my leg (steady girls). Source of enjoyment on night was bowling at stray dogs and moggies to see how high they would jump. Never did use it anger - a wet towel leaves no marks...
dvd
A car drove at a PC and I threw my truncheon at the driver with all the force I could manage. It bounced off the screen and into the Corporation's storage yard. It took me hours to find it. By the time I got back to the nick the driver had been charged and bailed.

Another time I was ‘on the door’ on an illegal alcohol/drugs/prostitution raid. One of the, er, ladies sidled up to me and rubbed my truncheon very suggestively. After a couple of minutes I said, “I bet you think that’s my truncheon.” She sort of half yelped, jumped back and my sergeant came up and gave me a bollocking. It got me a bit of a reputation so this is the first time I have publicly admitted the real reason she was startled.

sam.r

Original Poster:

2,379 posts

259 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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Why dont they have a point like the buses (break glass red hammer) on one end?

When a car is finally stopped you can all run out and smash the windows with ease causing distress to the driver / passengers and gaining access to them without asking him nicely to unlock the doors (if locked).

Chrispy Porker

17,749 posts

259 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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we used to use a pick axe handle for that kind of thing....

I can remember a driver refusing to open his door.

A requirement for a specimen of breath was shouted through the closed window.

His refusal to open the door was taken as a refusal to provide.

Then the big stick was used. smile

Carnage

889 posts

263 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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sam.r said:
Why dont they have a point like the buses (break glass red hammer) on one end?

When a car is finally stopped you can all run out and smash the windows with ease causing distress to the driver / passengers and gaining access to them without asking him nicely to unlock the doors (if locked).
Because if you used them for the intended purpose - hitting people - the nice ladies and gentlemen from Professional Standards would come and ask how justifed you were in tomahawking someone...

oldskool

317 posts

261 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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Carnage said:
sam.r said:
How advanced are these 'sticks' you guys carry?

I've just been watching one of these police programs and was wondering, can they break glass? If a driver locked himself in a car does it take long to smash?
Depends on how you hit it - windows either go suprisingly easily or be a nightmare. Hooly bars are better...
not sure whether a "hooly bar" would have helped in this case smile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAg37BG4CyI