SVA & a Samuri
Discussion
Hi folks, I have a Samuri (bought 1986 - never finished). I am looking to build a large garage/workshop this year in order to finally complete the project and get her on the road for next year.
So, does anyone know just exactly how hard (or easy, ha,ha!) it will be for me to get a very pre-SVA kit through the SVA test?
I am hoping that there will be some leniency in the test due to the kits age, but has anyone recently put a Samuri through the test? Or have I the only unregisterd Samuri in existence?
Any comments, thoughts, knowledge or experience in this department would be greatly received.
Thanks in advance.
RustyNut
1600GT Black/Blue Samuri
So, does anyone know just exactly how hard (or easy, ha,ha!) it will be for me to get a very pre-SVA kit through the SVA test?
I am hoping that there will be some leniency in the test due to the kits age, but has anyone recently put a Samuri through the test? Or have I the only unregisterd Samuri in existence?
Any comments, thoughts, knowledge or experience in this department would be greatly received.
Thanks in advance.
RustyNut
1600GT Black/Blue Samuri
I doubt there will be any real leniency regards any kit of any age.
There are certain things that you can do (quite a few are reasonably obvious).
Fitting SVA approved items such as the bonnet latches (the rubber things that most Jago's and other such kits used are useless anyway). The ones we use on our Jago's are from Europa Specialist Spares (part number BCOBSVA)
There are certain things that you can do (quite a few are reasonably obvious).
Fitting SVA approved items such as the bonnet latches (the rubber things that most Jago's and other such kits used are useless anyway). The ones we use on our Jago's are from Europa Specialist Spares (part number BCOBSVA)
Thanks Techsec.
Appears you're right, no concessions!
So looks like I'm going to have to do a careful build and improvise and modify as I go along. Are there any fundamental problems that you know of that my Samuri might encounter. Two things spring immediately to mind, does the steering column need to be colapsable in the event of a front end crash (mine is a simple rigid steel rod)? And, are the Hillman Imp bonnet hinges acceptable?
From the lack of response I take it that no one has the experience of SVAing a Samuri so it could be a case of "suck-it and see".
Thanks again, I'll keep you posted. Might even put together a build web site for the project once I've built my workshop!
Ta!
RustyNut
1986 (unregistered) Blue/Black, hard/soft top, 1600GT x/flow Samuri
>> Edited by RustyNut on Wednesday 16th July 17:28
Appears you're right, no concessions!
So looks like I'm going to have to do a careful build and improvise and modify as I go along. Are there any fundamental problems that you know of that my Samuri might encounter. Two things spring immediately to mind, does the steering column need to be colapsable in the event of a front end crash (mine is a simple rigid steel rod)? And, are the Hillman Imp bonnet hinges acceptable?
From the lack of response I take it that no one has the experience of SVAing a Samuri so it could be a case of "suck-it and see".
Thanks again, I'll keep you posted. Might even put together a build web site for the project once I've built my workshop!
Ta!
RustyNut
1986 (unregistered) Blue/Black, hard/soft top, 1600GT x/flow Samuri
>> Edited by RustyNut on Wednesday 16th July 17:28
Hi
Yes regarding Jago's and the SVA in general the only one I know of that was taken to an SVA was one of the last Escort based Sandero's (Geep).
That went through within the original concession period.
The owner did not give me any major feedback on how well it did at the time so I am at a lose to provide you with much info regards common components between the Sammie and Sandero.
The real telling time will be when the new Sierra based Jago Sandero's are put through the system.
Regards Imp hinges the main problem with them is that they stop travelling before the bonnet does (often the bonnets are expected to hinge back against the top of the windscreen). This can lead to the bonnet or scuttle being torn by the hinge mount pins. They tend to be quite abrupt in the profile as well which if the examiner was having a bad day would stop his little test ball.
Also by personal experience the quality of the hinge can be a bit naff. On several occasions before replacing them with the stainless steel hinge I have had the pins fall out of the hinge point which of course means the bonnet is free to do its own thing.
We use the stainless steel hinges that Jago supplied at one point.
I am not sure whether Emsworth Car and Cycle still have them in stock. Their phone number is 01243 372742
I am not totally sure on the SVA compliance of these hinges (currently looking through various supply catalogues for possible alternatives)
I think Andy Belfield (the chap that is doing the new Jago kit) is looking into checking out the stainless hinge and if necessary getting the company to alter the pressing process to get them to comply if they are suspect.
I will continue to try assisting you where possible on any issue you may have re the Sammie and SVA but of course I have limited resources at hand. (Can check various SVA issues re the examiners manual)
Re the steering column and collapsing it is acceptable to have a steering wheel that has an approved collapsible boss. Some form of documentary evidence needs to be available to prove its compliance and preferably the type approval marking on the steering wheel/boss.
Whether using the Mk2 Escort wheel would qualify I do not know as that had a collasible boss unit as part of the steering wheel. It also should comply regards there being no holes to allow the drivers clothing, jewellery etc to catch. Plus if you get the one from a GL or GHIA the "spokes" are padded.
>> Edited by techsec on Thursday 17th July 12:29
Yes regarding Jago's and the SVA in general the only one I know of that was taken to an SVA was one of the last Escort based Sandero's (Geep).
That went through within the original concession period.
The owner did not give me any major feedback on how well it did at the time so I am at a lose to provide you with much info regards common components between the Sammie and Sandero.
The real telling time will be when the new Sierra based Jago Sandero's are put through the system.
Regards Imp hinges the main problem with them is that they stop travelling before the bonnet does (often the bonnets are expected to hinge back against the top of the windscreen). This can lead to the bonnet or scuttle being torn by the hinge mount pins. They tend to be quite abrupt in the profile as well which if the examiner was having a bad day would stop his little test ball.
Also by personal experience the quality of the hinge can be a bit naff. On several occasions before replacing them with the stainless steel hinge I have had the pins fall out of the hinge point which of course means the bonnet is free to do its own thing.
We use the stainless steel hinges that Jago supplied at one point.
I am not sure whether Emsworth Car and Cycle still have them in stock. Their phone number is 01243 372742
I am not totally sure on the SVA compliance of these hinges (currently looking through various supply catalogues for possible alternatives)
I think Andy Belfield (the chap that is doing the new Jago kit) is looking into checking out the stainless hinge and if necessary getting the company to alter the pressing process to get them to comply if they are suspect.
I will continue to try assisting you where possible on any issue you may have re the Sammie and SVA but of course I have limited resources at hand. (Can check various SVA issues re the examiners manual)
Re the steering column and collapsing it is acceptable to have a steering wheel that has an approved collapsible boss. Some form of documentary evidence needs to be available to prove its compliance and preferably the type approval marking on the steering wheel/boss.
Whether using the Mk2 Escort wheel would qualify I do not know as that had a collasible boss unit as part of the steering wheel. It also should comply regards there being no holes to allow the drivers clothing, jewellery etc to catch. Plus if you get the one from a GL or GHIA the "spokes" are padded.
>> Edited by techsec on Thursday 17th July 12:29
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