dangers of twin headlights
dangers of twin headlights
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lcoverdale38

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22 posts

242 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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Just been reading this terrible story this morning about the death of a rider not far from me. The driver thought the bike was a car in the distance as it had twin headlights.

Made me realise how vulnerable you can be on a twin head light bike!

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/display.var.18950...

y2blade

56,321 posts

245 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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yeah ive heard that sort of thing before...hence alot of twin headlight bikes ONLY have one lit on dipped beam


keep safe out there guys/girls

Howitzer

2,865 posts

246 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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I have a ZXR750 and never thought about this, it does ring true though.

Only one light on from now on.

Dave!

m3psm

988 posts

251 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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Never heard of this before eek

My TDM has twin lights and the only come on together frown

More weaving and wheelies to ensure everyone knows it's a bike I think smile

RemaL

25,103 posts

264 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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a new 1 to me too. and I just orderd a triumpheek

y2blade

56,321 posts

245 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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RemaL said:
a new 1 to me too. and I just orderd a triumpheek
see my post above!!

it should only have one lit on dipped beam

sjtscott

4,215 posts

261 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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Nasty story.

EU Regs changed a few years ago (don't know exactly when) to say that only one dip headlight on twin light bikes should be lit.
My 99 R6 used to light both on dip, my 2000 SV650S used to light both on dip, my 2003 gsrx600 lit one side only as does my current 2003 CBR600F.

RemaL

25,103 posts

264 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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y2blade said:
RemaL said:
a new 1 to me too. and I just orderd a triumpheek
see my post above!!

it should only have one lit on dipped beam
ahh , Ok

tfm

16,952 posts

230 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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The accident would have happened with single or twin headlights.
The car driver misjudged the speed of the approacing bike - end of story.

The only lessons we as bikers can learn from this is to wear hi-viz vests. Not only do they make you more visible ON the bike, they also make you more visible when you're lying in the road!!
Of course it may not have saved this guy, and he may have been wearing one anyway?

agent006

12,058 posts

294 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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tfm said:
The car driver misjudged the speed of the approacing bike - end of story.
I thought that too. A numpty who can't judge speed correctly (or doesn't even try to) will still kill you whether you've got two, 6, or 64 lights on.

lcoverdale38

Original Poster:

22 posts

242 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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yeh, but if its a dark or unlit road then all you see is the lights of a bike/vehicle, have noticed that myself before when a bike comes up behind me on a dark stretch of road, all i can see is the lights and its not always possible to judge how far they are away until they are on top of you especially if they are travelling at some speed

HertsBiker

6,443 posts

301 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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sjtscott said:
Nasty story.

EU Regs changed a few years ago (don't know exactly when) to say that only one dip headlight on twin light bikes should be lit.
My 99 R6 used to light both on dip, my 2000 SV650S used to light both on dip, my 2003 gsrx600 lit one side only as does my current 2003 CBR600F.
what about the extra light being useful for *riding* though? sooner have twice the light if the design allows it.

Speed addicted

6,335 posts

257 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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y2blade said:
RemaL said:
a new 1 to me too. and I just orderd a triumpheek
see my post above!!

it should only have one lit on dipped beam
Both lights on my 6 month old speed triple light up on dipped beam, I think there is also something about how far apart the lights are in the regulations?

Desiato

960 posts

313 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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I used to ride my old Gixxer with one light painted in the yellow headlamp paint, and to be honest if I could still get it I would paint my current light yellow, makes them stand out from all the other white lights.
I was told by my BiL that different colour lights was illegal but that the BiB probably wouldn't be too bothered.

looksfast

351 posts

228 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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My RSVR is 2006 and has both headlights, so I don't buy the EU Regs bit (but equally don't know enough to back that up!)
What hapens when all of the cars have daylight running lights on? Then bikes are stuffed. Maybe all bikes should have yellow lights instead of white to distinguish them. It has a bit of European style about it cool

Hooli

32,278 posts

230 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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i dont believe the number of lights affected that crash. a numpty who cant judge speed/distance will put out in front of you no matter how many lights you've got.
personally id love a bike with two dipped lights, the one thing i really dont like on bikes is the crap headlight (bigger blub going in soon).

catso

16,529 posts

297 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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lcoverdale38 said:
its not always possible to judge how far they are away until they are on top of you
In which case you should not pull out, to do so when not 100% sure is dangerous driving, there really is no excuse.

podman

9,085 posts

270 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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Ive never heard of this before…it is fair to say it’s the drivers fault and no doubt the ultimate responsibility for the poor guys death must lay with him, however I do see, especially to someone who isn’t what we may call a competent driver, could mistake twin headlights for a car further in the distance….food for thought…

Hooli

32,278 posts

230 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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podman said:
Ive never heard of this before…it is fair to say it’s the drivers fault and no doubt the ultimate responsibility for the poor guys death must lay with him, however I do see, especially to someone who isn’t what we may call a competent driver, could mistake twin headlights for a car further in the distance….food for thought…
tbh if its far enough away you cant tell then a pair of bike lights are probably going to look like one wide light to me.
now a cruiser with spots on the side & a duff headlight on the other hand...

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

263 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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I've heard the same tale from a guy keen on old Land Rovers - people pull out on them, too. No consolation that it is their fault.