How not to do the 'Ring...
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I cannot believe how slow they were going, how slow the bike in front was, how calm they were as he lost it a 100mph, that he got out and wandered around the car and all over the track and then finally dithered straight out on to the driving line where fast cars were flying through at well over a tonne.
I'm sure they were having fun but seemed be showing the ring zero respect.
I don't think they have any idea exactly how lucky they really were.
"bloody 'eeeell ha ha"
I'm sure they were having fun but seemed be showing the ring zero respect.
I don't think they have any idea exactly how lucky they really were.
"bloody 'eeeell ha ha"
danger mouse said:
I cannot believe how slow they were going, how slow the bike in front was,
That may be to do with the perception of the video. I set up a camera in the back of my car once and the footage looked about half as fast as I was actually going.danger mouse said:
how calm they were as he lost it a 100mph
Instinctive. He got opposite lock on very fast, especially considering it seemd an odd place to lose it - he wasn't on the line - oil? Calm is better than panic I think.danger mouse said:
that he got out and wandered around the car and all over the track and then finally dithered straight out on to the driving line
He was checking for damage - he thought he'd lost a tyre. However by then mild shock was probably setting in. Lucky, yes. But bumbling out across the track didn't seem so smart I agree.ped523 said:
that was mega lucky, but well controlled! 
I think you'll find he instinctively slammed on the anchors just as the car was at 90 degrees to the direction of travel, the front wheels were probably on the grass while the rears were still on the tarmac. The locked front tyres would have had less resistance on the grass compared to the rears. The result is the rear of the car slowed down more than the front straightening the car again. He released the brakes once the car was straight so continuing in the right direction. Its a useful tactic if you are about to spin on a straight piece of track, lock all four wheels and the car will continue in the direction it was travelling regardless of the orientation of the car.
All IMHO of course
Still bloody lucky not to hit the Armco though.
Andy
Else said:
ped523 said:
that was mega lucky, but well controlled!
I think you'll find he instinctively slammed on the anchors just as the car was at 90 degrees to the direction of travel, the front wheels were probably on the grass while the rears were still on the tarmac. The locked front tyres would have had less resistance on the grass compared to the rears. The result is the rear of the car slowed down more than the front straightening the car again. He released the brakes once the car was straight so continuing in the right direction. Its a useful tactic if you are about to spin on a straight piece of track, lock all four wheels and the car will continue in the direction it was travelling regardless of the orientation of the car.
I doubt he thought about it like that though!
Probably the only two words he thought were, ....Sh*t....BRAKE....
I reckon that was down to a number of things.
First was the number of people in the car. (And the type of car)
Second was the layout of the road, not adverse camber, but the layout into that bend is odd, unusual by normal road standards.
Third, perhaps, was his line?
I don't know that I'd do better, but his escape was more luck than judgement I'd say.
Personally I take from that vid, that the best thing to do with that circuit, is to start slow and build up, because from what I've seen from youtube, there's plenty of "unusual" bits where that one came from.
Edited to add,
I may be wrong, but I'd say that he went too close to the apex, and when he realised and started to correct, he was already into the flat bit on the curve. That's just where you would want the superelevation to be, and it would stop that from happening. Personally I think he lifted from the throttle in the worst possible place.
First was the number of people in the car. (And the type of car)
Second was the layout of the road, not adverse camber, but the layout into that bend is odd, unusual by normal road standards.
Third, perhaps, was his line?
I don't know that I'd do better, but his escape was more luck than judgement I'd say.
Personally I take from that vid, that the best thing to do with that circuit, is to start slow and build up, because from what I've seen from youtube, there's plenty of "unusual" bits where that one came from.
Edited to add,
I may be wrong, but I'd say that he went too close to the apex, and when he realised and started to correct, he was already into the flat bit on the curve. That's just where you would want the superelevation to be, and it would stop that from happening. Personally I think he lifted from the throttle in the worst possible place.
Edited by dilbert on Thursday 20th December 17:39
Bizarre that one. I regularly got up to about 130 before braking for the on camber left hander just on front. Most people ditch it on the chicane just at the top of the hill.
What you cant see is if there was any oil/liquids about.
Darren, do you fancy a trip around Easter? This time of year it is usually wet and full of snow but by April it will be OK and open all weekend. I will be going over with the family and you are welcome to tag along.
What you cant see is if there was any oil/liquids about.
Darren, do you fancy a trip around Easter? This time of year it is usually wet and full of snow but by April it will be OK and open all weekend. I will be going over with the family and you are welcome to tag along.
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