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Hi
My TVR is currently up for sale - I won't take the p$*s and tell you which one. I've just had a very lengthy e-mail from a "French" chap via Africa asking lots of questions.
If you see an Iris Blue car advertised (other than mine obviously) check carefully - no doubt it will be cropping up soon...
Cheers, Carnage
My TVR is currently up for sale - I won't take the p$*s and tell you which one. I've just had a very lengthy e-mail from a "French" chap via Africa asking lots of questions.
If you see an Iris Blue car advertised (other than mine obviously) check carefully - no doubt it will be cropping up soon...
Cheers, Carnage
This is what we have said to each other so far..
Hello!
The car is still available muchly, thank you for your enquiring.
I'm glad to hear you are looking for a TVR - they are a real handful that only a real man can tackle. I am suring you will be fine. A Chimaera will be an excellent second car, and in your hands will no doubt be able to handle Mans and other French circuits.
1 - I have had the car for just over 2 years (deux ans!). The first owner was a man called Rumpole Bailey.
2 - The car was maintained by TVR main dealers.
3 - The car is used four - five times per weeks.
4 - The car has never been crashed. As per the advert, the front has been resprayed to remove stone chips.
5 - The car has only one modification - the sprocket sub-flange has been lightened along with the minge drive.
6 - The car has a full service history but I don't have a scanner. I could fax it to you if you provide me with a fax number.
7 - The tyres are about half-worn. The chassis is immaculate. The brakes are fine.
8 - The car is always run on Mobil 1 80W/40. The last service was 6 months ago.
9 - No mechanical problems at all.
10 - The car is always garaged. The MOT is for one year. What else would you like to know?
11 - I do not have a camera to hand. The VIN is 0756-N0FCUCING-C7AN3. The engine number is 08458505505.
12 - The car is very clean. It has no hard top.
13 - All the photos I have are on the website,
Please do not hesitate to e-mail me if you have any further questions. I need to sell the car very soon.
Thanks, Paul
> From: lag.dyna@wanadoo.fr
> To:
> Subject: RE: 'Superb Iris Blue Chimaera 4.0' at PistonHeads.com
> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:59:06 +0000
>
> http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/314469.htm
>
> Hello,
>
> I am a french buyer who search a TVR (Cerbera or Chimaera) or a Lotus (Elise S1 or S2), because the importation in France is easier than other models.
>
> In France is very very difficult to find a TVR or a Lotus (very high price, car for the track, only few models for sale.).
>
> My budget is max 12 000 pounds, and search a car in very good condition (in A1 condition) (for the paint, the engine, the seats.), so I'm interesting by your car.
>
> The usage of the car is in second car for the week-end and few road trips with friends (Mans; Magny-Cours.) for approximately 5 000 miles per year.
>
> I have several questions:
> . 1) How long time have you this car? Who is the first owner?
> . 2) Where and who made the maintenance? A garage of dealer / a specialist?
> . 3) What is the usage of this car (track; week-end; an every day car.)?
> . 4) The car has an accident or a crash? The car has stone chips or cracks in the paintwork?
> . 5) The car has modifications? What modifications?
> . 6) Can you sent me by Email the service history (Full Service History?)? Have you the original invoice or order?
> . 7) The tyres are recent? The brakes are recent? The chassis is in good condition?
> . 8) The oil and scheduled maintenance are recent?
> . 9) Have you mechanical problem with the car (oil; water consumption).
> . 10) Can you give more details on the car? MOT ok (the date). The car is garaged?
> . 11) Can I have a photo of the Vehicle Identification Number and of the engine number?
> . 12) The car is wash and polish regularly (interior-exterior)? Have you a Hardtop? Have you other parts?
> . 13) Have you other photos or videos of the cars in details? (Engine; seats; doors; n° identification; service history.)
>
> Thank you very much.
>
>
>
>
>
> Marc VERDI.
Edited to remove my e-mail address...
Hello!
The car is still available muchly, thank you for your enquiring.
I'm glad to hear you are looking for a TVR - they are a real handful that only a real man can tackle. I am suring you will be fine. A Chimaera will be an excellent second car, and in your hands will no doubt be able to handle Mans and other French circuits.
1 - I have had the car for just over 2 years (deux ans!). The first owner was a man called Rumpole Bailey.
2 - The car was maintained by TVR main dealers.
3 - The car is used four - five times per weeks.
4 - The car has never been crashed. As per the advert, the front has been resprayed to remove stone chips.
5 - The car has only one modification - the sprocket sub-flange has been lightened along with the minge drive.
6 - The car has a full service history but I don't have a scanner. I could fax it to you if you provide me with a fax number.
7 - The tyres are about half-worn. The chassis is immaculate. The brakes are fine.
8 - The car is always run on Mobil 1 80W/40. The last service was 6 months ago.
9 - No mechanical problems at all.
10 - The car is always garaged. The MOT is for one year. What else would you like to know?
11 - I do not have a camera to hand. The VIN is 0756-N0FCUCING-C7AN3. The engine number is 08458505505.
12 - The car is very clean. It has no hard top.
13 - All the photos I have are on the website,
Please do not hesitate to e-mail me if you have any further questions. I need to sell the car very soon.
Thanks, Paul
> From: lag.dyna@wanadoo.fr
> To:
> Subject: RE: 'Superb Iris Blue Chimaera 4.0' at PistonHeads.com
> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:59:06 +0000
>
> http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/314469.htm
>
> Hello,
>
> I am a french buyer who search a TVR (Cerbera or Chimaera) or a Lotus (Elise S1 or S2), because the importation in France is easier than other models.
>
> In France is very very difficult to find a TVR or a Lotus (very high price, car for the track, only few models for sale.).
>
> My budget is max 12 000 pounds, and search a car in very good condition (in A1 condition) (for the paint, the engine, the seats.), so I'm interesting by your car.
>
> The usage of the car is in second car for the week-end and few road trips with friends (Mans; Magny-Cours.) for approximately 5 000 miles per year.
>
> I have several questions:
> . 1) How long time have you this car? Who is the first owner?
> . 2) Where and who made the maintenance? A garage of dealer / a specialist?
> . 3) What is the usage of this car (track; week-end; an every day car.)?
> . 4) The car has an accident or a crash? The car has stone chips or cracks in the paintwork?
> . 5) The car has modifications? What modifications?
> . 6) Can you sent me by Email the service history (Full Service History?)? Have you the original invoice or order?
> . 7) The tyres are recent? The brakes are recent? The chassis is in good condition?
> . 8) The oil and scheduled maintenance are recent?
> . 9) Have you mechanical problem with the car (oil; water consumption).
> . 10) Can you give more details on the car? MOT ok (the date). The car is garaged?
> . 11) Can I have a photo of the Vehicle Identification Number and of the engine number?
> . 12) The car is wash and polish regularly (interior-exterior)? Have you a Hardtop? Have you other parts?
> . 13) Have you other photos or videos of the cars in details? (Engine; seats; doors; n° identification; service history.)
>
> Thank you very much.
>
>
>
>
>
> Marc VERDI.
Edited to remove my e-mail address...
Edited by Carnage on Tuesday 18th December 15:21
I'll stick my neck out here, but I think the buyer might be genuine! He's asked some general questions that you would about any car, but some of the specific questions would not have been asked by a scammer who knew nothing about TVRs: he appears to be aware that these cars might have an independent rather than main dealer service history; that some are used on track days or only as a weekend car; that they pick up stone chips.
A couple of little details make me think he really is French too. He has a proper e-mail address (wanadoo.fr is one of the biggest ISPs in France), it's not a 'dodgy' 14-day hotmail type account. He asks 'MOT ok?' The equivalent of an MOT in France is the CT; anyone selling a car in France will always use those same words in the description: CT ok. They also always describe the tyres as being recent or new. He ends his e-mail with his forename in lower case and his surname in capitals: that's how it's done in France.
On the other hand, it's not particularly easy to import any TVR into France without a Certificate of Conformity. It's certainly no easier to import a Chimaera or a Cerbera than other TVRs though. And quite why he'd want a photo of the VIN and engine numbers is beyond me....
Ok, I'll go up in the aeroplane now and await the missiles.
A couple of little details make me think he really is French too. He has a proper e-mail address (wanadoo.fr is one of the biggest ISPs in France), it's not a 'dodgy' 14-day hotmail type account. He asks 'MOT ok?' The equivalent of an MOT in France is the CT; anyone selling a car in France will always use those same words in the description: CT ok. They also always describe the tyres as being recent or new. He ends his e-mail with his forename in lower case and his surname in capitals: that's how it's done in France.
On the other hand, it's not particularly easy to import any TVR into France without a Certificate of Conformity. It's certainly no easier to import a Chimaera or a Cerbera than other TVRs though. And quite why he'd want a photo of the VIN and engine numbers is beyond me....
Ok, I'll go up in the aeroplane now and await the missiles.
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