Lancashire Police: Middle Class? Stand & deliver!

[derestrictor]

What an absolute shambles the trafpol division of this lot seem to be: when not fumbling in the hedgerows of Accrington and the environs (like the border with Greater Manchester where they like to flex their park attendant psychoses on we Mancese trangressors who slip over the border by mistake,) these hardy enforcers of near Cromwellian, anti motoring zeal are to be found en masse, crusing the M65, seeing which unfortunate's day, week, month or career they can next sabotage.

I swear, having just crossed the length of said m-way from the M61 intersection to the Colne exit (some what, 15 miles?) there were some 7 - SEVEN - lurking Volvos, Landcruisers and scamvans of the appropriate variety.

Capping this spectacular display of bourgois battery was the borderline obscene collection of talivans, plonked resplendantly at the m-way's end, in a 'wagons together' redoubt, redolent of some Alamoic last stand by a bunch of hapless desperados, encamped: 3 vehicles all bedecked and ready to deliver Bruvva Brown his crime slashing figures...

A utter, utter joke and I cannot imagine less than 90% of reps, vanmen and general hooners comme nous must have concluded anything other than just that.

At a time when properties are being raided for fun by people with unclean sportswear, it's nice to know where Brunstrom's Keystone Fanclub enshrines it's priorities.


Gof help us...


P.S. I've just been informed the same stretch has an unmarked Audi as well. Just for fun, then.
We're finished.

[speedchick]

As someone that lives part way along the M65, I have three things to say

1... you do know that there are no speed cameras, or cameras of any sort along the whole stretch of the motorway?

2... the M65 seems to be the road of choice for prats that want to see how far round the dial the needle will go for youtube (point one could well be as a result of this!)

3.... why on earth would anyone want to go to Colne?

[Lostusernamedamn]

speedchick said:

As someone that lives part way along the M65, I have three things to say

1... you do know that there are no speed cameras, or cameras of any sort along the whole stretch of the motorway?

2... the M65 seems to be the road of choice for prats that want to see how far round the dial the needle will go for youtube (point one could well be as a result of this!)

So they're after easy "crime" reduction then. How satisfied they must be with the important part in the contribution to humanity they are playing in their jobs.

[speedchick]

But, it was reported in the local rag today that in the past 2 weeks they have arrested 112 people for drink driving during their 'festive clampdown' so I guess it's not all bad news then!

Back to the M65, we do seem have a lot of 'bumps' on there, usually around J12, and being as it's only a 2 lane M/way that does tend to cause some disruption, perhaps they are fed up of getting shouted out by people delayed getting to and from B&Q!

[paddyhasneeds]

I thought people wanted more Traffic Police rather than "safety" by automation?

[vonhosen]

paddyhasneeds said:

I thought people wanted more Traffic Police rather than "safety" by automation?

No, people want to be allowed to do what they like.

[jambuster]

Lostusernamedamn said:

speedchick said:

As someone that lives part way along the M65, I have three things to say

1... you do know that there are no speed cameras, or cameras of any sort along the whole stretch of the motorway?

2... the M65 seems to be the road of choice for prats that want to see how far round the dial the needle will go for youtube (point one could well be as a result of this!)

So they're after easy "crime" reduction then. How satisfied they must be with the important part in the contribution to humanity they are playing in their jobs.

Motoring offences are not classed as crimes, and as such they have no detection rate.

Has the original poster considered that the number of police traffic vehicles on that stretch of road may have been because their was an ANPR Team working on the M65 at that time?

[andygo]

vonhosen said:

paddyhasneeds said:

I thought people wanted more Traffic Police rather than "safety" by automation?

No, people want to be allowed to do what they like.

Thats the first sensible post from you...... EVER! Well done, keep it up. Gosh, we all thought you were lost.

[vonhosen]

andygo said:

vonhosen said:

paddyhasneeds said:

I thought people wanted more Traffic Police rather than "safety" by automation?

No, people want to be allowed to do what they like.

Thats the first sensible post from you...... EVER! Well done, keep it up. Gosh, we all thought you were lost.

I didn't say they should be allowed to though



& does that put me one up on you ?

Edited by vonhosen on Tuesday 18th December 18:35

[GPSHead]

vonhosen said:

paddyhasneeds said:

I thought people wanted more Traffic Police rather than "safety" by automation?

No, people want to be allowed to do what they like.

If by "people" you mean the majority on here, I'm not sure what you're basing that comment on. Other than speeding (and parking which is often only a "contravention" anyway so that councils can profit), there is AFAICT no other one offence that the majority complain about people being done for. Some may complain about the mobile phone law, some about seatbelts, and a few others crop up sometimes, but the majority generally don't agree. Policing of many offences is almost universally applauded, e.g. drink-driving, lane-hogging, dangerous driving etc. No-one enjoys being done for anything, but I don't hear people here complaining about being policed in general, unless it's for speeding which they regard as safe, and even then it's usually the scammers who come in for the heaviest criticism (which is understandable considering their motives relative to those of the police).

I don't find that people here are hypocritical either: they don't tend to advocate other people being done for things which they do themselves (unlike the "Hang the evil speeders, I never speed" types that can crop up regularly elsewhere). There's no "other people should be policed but not me". And as far as I know no-one has ever said that there shouldn't be any traffic policing of any kind. I've never seen anyone say that they should be able to do what they liked, either explicitly or otherwise. Of course, they could still think it, and perhaps you have telepathic powers, which would be rather useful for a copper.

[derestrictor]

jambuster said:

Motoring offences are not classed as crimes, and as such they have no detection rate.

Has the original poster considered that the number of police traffic vehicles on that stretch of road may have been because their was an ANPR Team working on the M65 at that time?

Fair enough, I stand corrected.

So 'being busted' for speeding does not go into the stats when the Home Sec trumpets the fall in (recorded) crime, right? That's technically encouraging, I must concede.

Re 'had I considered...,' the answer is no.

However, I counted two dozen officers involved in this 'sting' (if that's what it was) which as a simple taxpayer seems quite an absurd choice of enforcement given the extent to which the police are genuinely stretched/under resourced/manned.

I maintain the charge that Lancashire Police are obsessed with trivial motoring offences whilst Rome burns around them...

[Road Pest]

Not just Lancashire Police. When I got 'trapped" or caught speeding on the M69 the only vehicles I saw were a marked X5, a marked Volvo and an unmarked Skoda, oh and me of course. It didn't look like traffic safety was their main priority as they made up 75% of the traffic! Might wonder what I was doing really.......

[10 Pence Short]

derestrictor said:

What an absolute shambles the trafpol division of this lot seem to be: when not fumbling in the hedgerows of Accrington and the environs (like the border with Greater Manchester where they like to flex their park attendant psychoses on we Mancese trangressors who slip over the border by mistake,) these hardy enforcers of near Cromwellian, anti motoring zeal are to be found en masse, crusing the M65, seeing which unfortunate's day, week, month or career they can next sabotage.

I swear, having just crossed the length of said m-way from the M61 intersection to the Colne exit (some what, 15 miles?) there were some 7 - SEVEN - lurking Volvos, Landcruisers and scamvans of the appropriate variety.

Capping this spectacular display of bourgois battery was the borderline obscene collection of talivans, plonked resplendantly at the m-way's end, in a 'wagons together' redoubt, redolent of some Alamoic last stand by a bunch of hapless desperados, encamped: 3 vehicles all bedecked and ready to deliver Bruvva Brown his crime slashing figures...

A utter, utter joke and I cannot imagine less than 90% of reps, vanmen and general hooners comme nous must have concluded anything other than just that.

At a time when properties are being raided for fun by people with unclean sportswear, it's nice to know where Brunstrom's Keystone Fanclub enshrines it's priorities.


Gof help us...


P.S. I've just been informed the same stretch has an unmarked Audi as well. Just for fun, then.
We're finished.

It sounds much more to me like an organised ANPR session, the marked/unmarked cars wait futher down the road to intercept 'pinged' vehicles.

Seen it happen numerous times on the M62 between Rainhill and Warrington.

Much more likely than using 7 units just to catch speeders.

[speedchick]

Went to Colne earlier on and the ANPR vehicles are still there. (on the junction at the Colne end of the M65)

[Tonto]

speedchick said:

3.... why on earth would anyone want to go to Colne?

speedchick said:

Went to Colne earlier on and the ANPR vehicles are still there. (on the junction at the Colne end of the M65)

So, why did YOU go then ?

Know what you mean tho, I went through Colne last week,,, it was shut.

[Isoproturon1]

So, the traffic police are out and about doing what they're paid to do... policing traffic.

What's wrong with that?

[derestrictor]

Isoproturon1 said:

So, the traffic police are out and about doing what they're paid to do... policing traffic.

What's wrong with that?

Everything when 25 officers are covering the least congested stretch of m-way in the North West and the vermin are revolting all over the bloody show!

[Bing o]

derestrictor said:

Isoproturon1 said:

So, the traffic police are out and about doing what they're paid to do... policing traffic.

What's wrong with that?

Everything when 25 officers are covering the least congested stretch of m-way in the North West and the vermin are revolting all over the bloody show!

How many Police officers are there in the Lancashire force altogether?

Nothing wrong with trafpol cracking down on uninsured or drink/drugged driving (who tend to be the sort of scrotes who end up burglarising etc anyway).

Oh and drop the bleeding heart "middle class" bullshit - it's just the white version of "is it cos I is black" and it's ing tedious to be honest.

[speedchick]

Tonto said:

speedchick said:

3.... why on earth would anyone want to go to Colne?

speedchick said:

Went to Colne earlier on and the ANPR vehicles are still there. (on the junction at the Colne end of the M65)

So, why did YOU go then ?

Know what you mean tho, I went through Colne last week,,, it was shut.

Had to go to the boyfriends house to do some soldering for him, got out of there as quick as I could

[derestrictor]

Bing o said:

Oh and drop the bleeding heart "middle class" bullshit - it's just the white version of "is it cos I is black" and it's ing tedious to be honest.

No, what's f@cking tedious are the legions of white, middle class morons in this country who can't see the sh1t they're being fed by an unconscious but nonetheless, milk livered, appeasing, apologist mindset which permeates so many aspects of life and unless they're living in some variation of a gilded, ivory tower, becomes frustrating in extremis.

Bleeding heart? Yes, I suppose my heart does bleed for the state of this country, it must be quite the PH utopia where you live.

Mate.