Advice on buying an Elise S2
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HI
I am now getting pretty serious about getting an S2 Elise, the problem is I am not that up to speed with the models etc.
The cars that are in my price bracket seem to be 02's and I think I need something at the upper end of the power scale as it is replacing an M3 so I would like something as close as I can get.... like the M3 it will get used everyday and for business as well.
My limited understanding was that the 111 had 160bhp (is this correct?) so I have been looking at these but I have also come across a couple of cars modified by DVA which I am quite interested in (150-160bhp).... but will these cars be as good a bet and reliable as a 111? they seem to have other worthwhile mods.
What do you guys recomend?
I am now getting pretty serious about getting an S2 Elise, the problem is I am not that up to speed with the models etc.
The cars that are in my price bracket seem to be 02's and I think I need something at the upper end of the power scale as it is replacing an M3 so I would like something as close as I can get.... like the M3 it will get used everyday and for business as well.
My limited understanding was that the 111 had 160bhp (is this correct?) so I have been looking at these but I have also come across a couple of cars modified by DVA which I am quite interested in (150-160bhp).... but will these cars be as good a bet and reliable as a 111? they seem to have other worthwhile mods.
What do you guys recomend?
andygtt said:
HI
I am now getting pretty serious about getting an S2 Elise, the problem is I am not that up to speed with the models etc.
The cars that are in my price bracket seem to be 02's and I think I need something at the upper end of the power scale as it is replacing an M3 so I would like something as close as I can get.... like the M3 it will get used everyday and for business as well.
My limited understanding was that the 111 had 160bhp (is this correct?) so I have been looking at these but I have also come across a couple of cars modified by DVA which I am quite interested in (150-160bhp).... but will these cars be as good a bet and reliable as a 111? they seem to have other worthwhile mods.
What do you guys recomend?
The 111S had a VVC engine, so lots of torque throughout the rev range, whereas a modified fixed cam car is going to be more peaky in its delivery. If it's an everyday car, I'd go for a car that's designed and tuned as a whole package by the factory to be honest (for driveability, mpg, NVH, etc etc). The 111S makes a good everyday car as it has extra sound deadening and carpets etc - I use mine everyday and don't have a single complaint, other than the noise on the motorway after an hour or two. The 111S came out in 2002, so you should be able to find some examples out there. I am now getting pretty serious about getting an S2 Elise, the problem is I am not that up to speed with the models etc.
The cars that are in my price bracket seem to be 02's and I think I need something at the upper end of the power scale as it is replacing an M3 so I would like something as close as I can get.... like the M3 it will get used everyday and for business as well.
My limited understanding was that the 111 had 160bhp (is this correct?) so I have been looking at these but I have also come across a couple of cars modified by DVA which I am quite interested in (150-160bhp).... but will these cars be as good a bet and reliable as a 111? they seem to have other worthwhile mods.
What do you guys recomend?
Oh, and don't believe what you hear about them understeering. If you drive in the correct manner, you'll get adjustable neutrality throughout a bend whether it's wet or dry. If you want to drive in any other way (for instance, like you might drive a BMW), wider front tyres are available.
Edited by RobM77 on Wednesday 19th December 09:51
The S2 111S gives 156 bhp with from its VVC engine, whilst the standard S2 has just 120 bhp, which for most people is still quick enough. However as mentioned the fixed cam model is extremely tuneable, my car for example is at 165.5bhp (6,600 rpm) care of a PTP kit (upgraded head / camshafts, 52mm tb / ITG induction kit) and some DVA fettling (cam timing and Emerald ECU). Very little difference between my car and a standard one under normal driving, but when you get past 4,500 rpm where the power levels off in the standard car mine keeps going right up into the 6,000's.
Sadly mine will be for sale in the spring, as I'll be needing a car with more seats by August (happy days!) and will be sad to see it go but I won't be able to afford to run 2 cars any more.
Sadly mine will be for sale in the spring, as I'll be needing a car with more seats by August (happy days!) and will be sad to see it go but I won't be able to afford to run 2 cars any more.
RobM77 said:
Oh, and don't believe what you hear about them understeering. If you drive in the correct manner, you'll get adjustable neutrality throughout a bend whether it's wet or dry. If you want to drive in any other way (for instance, like you might drive a BMW), wider front tyres are available.
With a decent geo and a set of Yoko AD07s, the car is very adjustable and progressivekevin ritson said:
RobM77 said:
Oh, and don't believe what you hear about them understeering. If you drive in the correct manner, you'll get adjustable neutrality throughout a bend whether it's wet or dry. If you want to drive in any other way (for instance, like you might drive a BMW), wider front tyres are available.
With a decent geo and a set of Yoko AD07s, the car is very adjustable and progressive
My point was that it also is with the standard setup, though as you say, I'm sure a different geo would release this even more 
miro said:
111s Is the best 'all round' elise S2 for an only car
(theyre all good realy)
(theyre all good realy)
I certainly love mine. I did consider a 111R with a touring pack (which is also a great everyday car), but I didn't like the servo brakes, and to some extent the extra mass the car had. That is purely personal taste, as I know plenty of people who prefer either car - it's entirely subjective.RobM77 said:
miro said:
111s Is the best 'all round' elise S2 for an only car
(theyre all good realy)
(theyre all good realy)
I certainly love mine. I did consider a 111R with a touring pack (which is also a great everyday car), but I didn't like the servo brakes, and to some extent the extra mass the car had. That is purely personal taste, as I know plenty of people who prefer either car - it's entirely subjective.luckyb said:
RobM77 said:
miro said:
111s Is the best 'all round' elise S2 for an only car
(theyre all good realy)
(theyre all good realy)
I certainly love mine. I did consider a 111R with a touring pack (which is also a great everyday car), but I didn't like the servo brakes, and to some extent the extra mass the car had. That is purely personal taste, as I know plenty of people who prefer either car - it's entirely subjective.Edited by RobM77 on Thursday 20th December 15:37
kambites said:
There was a car badged a "111" - it had the same engine as the 111S but none of the extra luxuries. They're pretty rare though.
Strange, as I understood it the 111 was a standard Elise, non VVC, with extras like carpets, central locking etc, least wise the one I looked at was. grumpy said:
kambites said:
There was a car badged a "111" - it had the same engine as the 111S but none of the extra luxuries. They're pretty rare though.
Strange, as I understood it the 111 was a standard Elise, non VVC, with extras like carpets, central locking etc, least wise the one I looked at was. Gassing Station | Elise/Exige/Europa/340R | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff


