The latest victim of crime...
The latest victim of crime...
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Pot Bellied Fool

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2,264 posts

268 months

Wednesday 19th December 2007
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Well, you never think it'll happen to you do you?

But this morning the alarm clock went off as usual. I looked out of the window to see how frosty the car windscreens were and I'm fairly sure I would've noticed if my van had been gone at that point...

Fast Forward 20 minutes, the gorgeous MrsPBF (we've only been married for 6 weeks too, great start!) went downstairs and screamed.

Cue one stark-naked PBF (not a pretty sight let me assure you!) rushing downstairs to be greeted by a wide open kitchen door and a lot of glass on the floor. Think her getting up must've disturbed them as they left this laptop but took another.

The little bastards have used a centre-punch or similar to break the double-glazed unit on the uPVC door and they've had it away with a laptop, some change and worse, found both sets of keys.

So that's my van gone and Mrs PBF's Ka gone. Oh Bugger. That's really not good. And her comp insurance doesn't include a hire car. frown

Please keep an eye out if you're in this neck of the woods.

Stolen from Waterloo (Nr Crosby) early on 19th December 2007

Ford Escort Van - Metallic Green - T804 FFV

Ford Ka - Navy Blue - MF 05 UOG

Some documents have been found dumped in Walton but no sign of the vehicles yet.

Absolute swine, my gorgeous wife (only got married in November) is in bits thinking of the scum being in here.

Merseyside BiB were great, round within the hour to have a look & take statements but agreed with me that there's not much hope unless they're spotted driving one of the vehicles. What a shame we have several new yellow boxes around here but no funds for extra Police trawling the streets for lowlife.

The response BiB were great, good to talk to and from the sound of it, very over-stretched at times. Not heard from CID with a crime number yet though.

SOCO been out but nothing to be found. So it's a good Christmas for the lowlife and a pretty piss-poor one for ClanPBF.

But I do have a nice victim support leaflet.

BOF

991 posts

254 months

Wednesday 19th December 2007
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PBF,

Happened to me some years ago Pal...from memory...lost a lot of sleep for about a week at some b*stard invading my privacy.

House dusted for 'prints'...Police security man came with advice...we made the house a bit more secure (I still resent the need to check all the bloody doors and windows.

Had a chat with a neighbour of mine...retired Chief Inspector...when they caught the git...'Thinking about paying £1000 to get his knees re arranged' can you get me his name?

'Sure...but come and see me tomorrow morning...if you want to lower yourself to the level of this animal I can probably help you'

Slept on it...took the message...recommend it to you.

Sleep Well...it passes!

BOF

esselte

14,626 posts

298 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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BOF said:
'Sure...but come and see me tomorrow morning...if you want to lower yourself to the level of this animal I can probably help you'
Maybe if more people actually did "lower" themselves then there may be fewer animals around....

gozomark

167 posts

259 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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esselte said:
BOF said:
'Sure...but come and see me tomorrow morning...if you want to lower yourself to the level of this animal I can probably help you'
Maybe if more people actually did "lower" themselves then there may be fewer animals around....
by lowering yourself, you become no better than them, so meaning more animals.....

Deltaf01

1,512 posts

228 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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gozomark said:
esselte said:
BOF said:
'Sure...but come and see me tomorrow morning...if you want to lower yourself to the level of this animal I can probably help you'
Maybe if more people actually did "lower" themselves then there may be fewer animals around....
by lowering yourself, you become no better than them, so meaning more animals.....
Youre not lowering yourself, youre eliminating waste materials.
Hammered toes are quite a hoot i hear.

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

246 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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gozomark said:
by lowering yourself, you become no better than them, so meaning more animals.....
So we became no better than the Nazis when we beat them back to Berlin?
Given that the police have no (or do not wish to exercise) powers to stop burglars anymore then what else is there?

Edited by NobleGuy on Thursday 20th December 12:24

Jasandjules

72,681 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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gozomark said:
by lowering yourself, you become no better than them, so meaning more animals.....
Sort of.

But, whilst I am an athiest, the Bible says an eye for an eye, and that is one maxim I do truely believe in.


selwonk

2,143 posts

256 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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It also says to turn the other cheek, so I don't get your point?

biglepton

5,042 posts

232 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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selwonk said:
It also says to turn the other cheek, so I don't get your point?
An oft-misinterpreted quote - it actually means once you have punched one cheek of the person offending against, then turn and punch his other cheek. I hope that clears up that particular bit of the Bible for you. cool

Mg6b

6,649 posts

294 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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NobleGuy said:
Given that the police have no (or do not wish to exercise) powers to stop burglars anymore then what else is there?
rolleyes

My custody unit is full of burglars most days. The courts release them on bail to burgle again and again and again.

streaky

19,311 posts

280 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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Pot Bellied Fool said:
Well, you never think it'll happen to you do you?

...

But I do have a nice victim support leaflet.
And probably several NOIPs droppping through the letterbox as a New Year present.

If so, I suggest you write in the space for naming the driver: "No idea, but ask Merseyside Police (if they ever catch the bu99er) and they've give you a sample of his DNA."

Sorry to hear about it. Even sorrier that you're just another statistic that means Jaqui Smith can argue the BiB aren't worth extra cash becuase they're not doing the job they're paid ... despite it being Nu Labia that put them in this ridiculous position frown - Streaky

PS - that's NOT a dig at the BiB, BTW - S

Jasandjules

72,681 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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selwonk said:
It also says to turn the other cheek, so I don't get your point?
Well, I guess the Pope didn't read that section when they burnt thousands at the stake......Is it in the small print somewhere, easily missed?


Chrispy Porker

17,750 posts

259 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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NobleGuy said:
gozomark said:
by lowering yourself, you become no better than them, so meaning more animals.....
So we became no better than the Nazis when we beat them back to Berlin?
Given that the police have no (or do not wish to exercise) powers to stop burglars anymore then what else is there?

Edited by NobleGuy on Thursday 20th December 12:24
Er
The Russians beat the Nazi's back to Berlin.
Arguably Stalin was worse than Hitler, so yes the Russians were no better.

Chrispy Porker

17,750 posts

259 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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Mg6b said:
NobleGuy said:
Given that the police have no (or do not wish to exercise) powers to stop burglars anymore then what else is there?
rolleyes

My custody unit is full of burglars most days. The courts release them on bail to burgle again and again and again.
yes


Hooli

32,278 posts

231 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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esselte said:
BOF said:
'Sure...but come and see me tomorrow morning...if you want to lower yourself to the level of this animal I can probably help you'
Maybe if more people actually did "lower" themselves then there may be fewer animals around....
or at least fewer animals capable of walking into someone else's house to start with. im all for it, proper punishment for scum.

Big Fat F'r

1,232 posts

237 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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Jasandjules said:
selwonk said:
It also says to turn the other cheek, so I don't get your point?
Well, I guess the Pope didn't read that section when they burnt thousands at the stake......Is it in the small print somewhere, easily missed?
No, its quite well posted. It's in the New Testament, whereas the eye for an eye bit is in the Old Testament.

Most of the modern Church now agrees that the New outranks the Old, particularly if you consider exacly who made each quote. I hear that some atheists prefer the Old Testament, but they would, wouldn't they.

All in all a good read, worthy of consideration at this time of year.

Sympathies, PBF, hope it doesn't affect your Christmas too much.

BFF

Edited by Big Fat F'r on Thursday 20th December 19:46

AndyRw

740 posts

240 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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Chrispy Porker said:
Mg6b said:
NobleGuy said:
Given that the police have no (or do not wish to exercise) powers to stop burglars anymore then what else is there?
rolleyes

My custody unit is full of burglars most days. The courts release them on bail to burgle again and again and again.
yes
I brought one of our most prolific burglars in the other night for failing to answer bail. He was to be charged with a theft, and when I did the arrest checks I found CID wanted to charge him with yet another burglary. Custody Sergeant wanted to bail him to court... apparently he hasn't got enough history for failing to answer. banghead

I managed to persuade him to let me go and speak with CID in case they had any other matters that needed to be dealt with before charge... Thought I'd leave it to a DS to argue why he shouldn't be bailed.

Edited by AndyRw on Thursday 20th December 20:00

Jasandjules

72,681 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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Chrispy Porker said:
Mg6b said:
NobleGuy said:
Given that the police have no (or do not wish to exercise) powers to stop burglars anymore then what else is there?
rolleyes

My custody unit is full of burglars most days. The courts release them on bail to burgle again and again and again.
yes
Sadly, far too true. I wish the judiciary were picked from people who actually have been victims of crime instead of the usual public school to oxbridge to bench system of rich t**ts with little experience of the real world (yes, this chip on my shoulder would sink the titanic).

And yes, I am an athiest, so really not a lot of the bible etc.. means much to me, but an Eye for an Eye is to me a good policy through which to live your life.


Peter Ward

2,097 posts

287 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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Big Fat F'r said:
Jasandjules said:
selwonk said:
It also says to turn the other cheek, so I don't get your point?
Well, I guess the Pope didn't read that section when they burnt thousands at the stake......Is it in the small print somewhere, easily missed?
No, its quite well posted. It's in the New Testament, whereas the eye for an eye bit is in the Old Testament.

Most of the modern Church now agrees that the New outranks the Old, particularly if you consider exacly who made each quote. I hear that some atheists prefer the Old Testament, but they would, wouldn't they.

All in all a good read, worthy of consideration at this time of year.

Sympathies, PBF, hope it doesn't affect your Christmas too much.

BFF

Edited by Big Fat F'r on Thursday 20th December 19:46
Very sorry to hear of your plight, PBF. It's not nice to think of them in your house, and now in your cars. They won't be the same if you get them back. My daughter's car was stolen earlier in the year and although she got it back it was left in an unpleasant state.

BTW, "eye for an eye" is actually setting a limit, not defining a commandment. Back then it was clearly normal to have a real go at someone for a minor misdemeanour. And the "turn the other cheek", if you visualise it, indicates that the first hit was with the back of the hand, so a challenge to you -- don't rise to it is the message. HTH.

delboy735

1,656 posts

233 months

Thursday 20th December 2007
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If the little scrunts are caught in the act, public flogging is the only thing that would deter them in the future. I too am an atheist, believing the " bible" to be a giant bedime book, alledgedly written some 150 years after the birth of "Jesus".....but there are some pearls of wisdom in it.

An Eye for an Eye.........boocks, take both if necessary. If somone violates another person's rights, then the violator should at that point,have all his/her rights removed. They should be publicly humiliated, and left to the mercy of the "victims" families and friends. They should be thrown into a cell, have the door permanently locked, and let their own families bring them food.Failing that, let 'em starve.
















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