PPP vs Superchip
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Hi all
Looking at buying a Scooby WRX STI (53 reg), it has been superchipped but apart from that is completely standard. What is this likely to give in BHP/Torque figures vs a PPP'd STI? Had a look on Superchip's website and can't find anything.
Will a chipped one be more expensive to insure than a PPP'd one?
Also, is there anything I need to be aware of on these models? The car I'm looking at appears to be immaculate (mature owner, v.low miles, FSH - based on months not miles - all invoices and receipts), but just wanted to know if there're any "gotchas" to check for.
Thanks
Chris (hopefully soon be a fully paid up member of the Jap car cult)
Looking at buying a Scooby WRX STI (53 reg), it has been superchipped but apart from that is completely standard. What is this likely to give in BHP/Torque figures vs a PPP'd STI? Had a look on Superchip's website and can't find anything.
Will a chipped one be more expensive to insure than a PPP'd one?
Also, is there anything I need to be aware of on these models? The car I'm looking at appears to be immaculate (mature owner, v.low miles, FSH - based on months not miles - all invoices and receipts), but just wanted to know if there're any "gotchas" to check for.
Thanks
Chris (hopefully soon be a fully paid up member of the Jap car cult)
Vixpy1 said:
I'd be wary of anything with a supeqrchip in.
Is it a blob eye or a bug eye? Blob eye PPP's are better because its an Ecutek remap as opposed to a chip board.
It's a blob eye - is there any reason to be wary of chipping one of these? As mentioned previously, the car has a very low mileage (12k in 5 years) and seems to have been very well looked after.Is it a blob eye or a bug eye? Blob eye PPP's are better because its an Ecutek remap as opposed to a chip board.
Does chipping expose any vulnerabilities in the engine? I thought Imprezas were generally pretty sturdy?
No reason at all not to chip, but these cars need custom remaps by people who know what they are doing with Subarus, not a fit and forget chip from the likes of Superchips.
A proper remap, decat and panel filter will see the likes of 320bhp.
One of my customers has one running 500bhp on stock internals.
A proper remap, decat and panel filter will see the likes of 320bhp.
One of my customers has one running 500bhp on stock internals.
Vixpy1 said:
No reason at all not to chip, but these cars need custom remaps by people who know what they are doing with Subarus, not a fit and forget chip from the likes of Superchips.
A proper remap, decat and panel filter will see the likes of 320bhp.
One of my customers has one running 500bhp on stock internals.
500bhp he will be getting a new engine very soon then A proper remap, decat and panel filter will see the likes of 320bhp.
One of my customers has one running 500bhp on stock internals.
the very max i was told was 400bhp(this was in my 2005 sti ) if he is it would have cost him more to make it safe than to get a forged engine
mr p1 said:
Vixpy1 said:
No reason at all not to chip, but these cars need custom remaps by people who know what they are doing with Subarus, not a fit and forget chip from the likes of Superchips.
A proper remap, decat and panel filter will see the likes of 320bhp.
One of my customers has one running 500bhp on stock internals.
500bhp he will be getting a new engine very soon then A proper remap, decat and panel filter will see the likes of 320bhp.
One of my customers has one running 500bhp on stock internals.
the very max i was told was 400bhp(this was in my 2005 sti ) if he is it would have cost him more to make it safe than to get a forged engine
The car has a build engine coming so they don't really care if it goes bang.
GRD=
G=Impreza
R= ?
D=MY97 (facelift)
Series code G=Impreza S=Forester B=Legacy etc.
Body type F=Wagon C=Sedan
Engine type 8=2.0L Turbo
Year code A=MY93 B=MY94 C=MY95&96 D=MY97 (facelift) E=MY98 F=MY99 G=MY00
Number of doors 2=2 door coupe 4=4 door saloon 5=5 door wagon/hatch
Model type 8=WRX 7=RA type E=Sti D=Sti Type R & RA
Transmission D=5 Speed Manual AWD P=4 Speed Automatic AWD
so it would be one of these ?
.96-Aug.97MY97 (Facelift)
GC8D2DD 300 WRX STi R 2 door First 2 door coupe
GC8D48D 280 WRX 4 door
GC8D47D 280 WRX RA 4 door
GC8D4ED 300 WRX STi3 4 door
GC8D4ED 300 WRX STi3 V-Limited 4 door Special edition
GC8D4DD 300 WRX RA STi3
GF8D58D 240 WRX 5 door
GF8D5ED 300 WRX STi3 5 door
GF8D5ED 300 WRX STi3 V-Limited 5 door Special edition
G=Impreza
R= ?
D=MY97 (facelift)
Series code G=Impreza S=Forester B=Legacy etc.
Body type F=Wagon C=Sedan
Engine type 8=2.0L Turbo
Year code A=MY93 B=MY94 C=MY95&96 D=MY97 (facelift) E=MY98 F=MY99 G=MY00
Number of doors 2=2 door coupe 4=4 door saloon 5=5 door wagon/hatch
Model type 8=WRX 7=RA type E=Sti D=Sti Type R & RA
Transmission D=5 Speed Manual AWD P=4 Speed Automatic AWD
so it would be one of these ?
.96-Aug.97MY97 (Facelift)
GC8D2DD 300 WRX STi R 2 door First 2 door coupe
GC8D48D 280 WRX 4 door
GC8D47D 280 WRX RA 4 door
GC8D4ED 300 WRX STi3 4 door
GC8D4ED 300 WRX STi3 V-Limited 4 door Special edition
GC8D4DD 300 WRX RA STi3
GF8D58D 240 WRX 5 door
GF8D5ED 300 WRX STi3 5 door
GF8D5ED 300 WRX STi3 V-Limited 5 door Special edition
Edited by mr p1 on Friday 28th December 16:53
Superchips as said dont really work very well with your car, a re-map will tune the engine to best performance for the individual ability of each engine.
12k in 5 years seems a bit too good for me too, it makes you ask some questions such as, has it been crashed and sitting in a breakers for 3 years then repaired, has it been clocked, has it been run regularly enough to avoid engine ceasing (not sure if thats the correct spelling). If it looks too good to be true it probably is and as said, there are loads to choose from out there
12k in 5 years seems a bit too good for me too, it makes you ask some questions such as, has it been crashed and sitting in a breakers for 3 years then repaired, has it been clocked, has it been run regularly enough to avoid engine ceasing (not sure if thats the correct spelling). If it looks too good to be true it probably is and as said, there are loads to choose from out there
Evil.soup said:
Superchips as said dont really work very well with your car, a re-map will tune the engine to best performance for the individual ability of each engine.
12k in 5 years seems a bit too good for me too, it makes you ask some questions such as, has it been crashed and sitting in a breakers for 3 years then repaired, has it been clocked, has it been run regularly enough to avoid engine ceasing (not sure if thats the correct spelling). If it looks too good to be true it probably is and as said, there are loads to choose from out there
Just to update you all, I bought a Scoob yesterday! 12k in 5 years seems a bit too good for me too, it makes you ask some questions such as, has it been crashed and sitting in a breakers for 3 years then repaired, has it been clocked, has it been run regularly enough to avoid engine ceasing (not sure if thats the correct spelling). If it looks too good to be true it probably is and as said, there are loads to choose from out there
05 WRX PPP with just over 20k miles, FSH, clearly been cherished by the owner (oil changed himself in-between services etc)... on balance I figured the WRX PPP is a good balance between what I want and what I need. And stealthy in silver, which is also good.
Thanks for all your advice!
ChrisO said:
Evil.soup said:
Superchips as said dont really work very well with your car, a re-map will tune the engine to best performance for the individual ability of each engine.
12k in 5 years seems a bit too good for me too, it makes you ask some questions such as, has it been crashed and sitting in a breakers for 3 years then repaired, has it been clocked, has it been run regularly enough to avoid engine ceasing (not sure if thats the correct spelling). If it looks too good to be true it probably is and as said, there are loads to choose from out there
Just to update you all, I bought a Scoob yesterday! 12k in 5 years seems a bit too good for me too, it makes you ask some questions such as, has it been crashed and sitting in a breakers for 3 years then repaired, has it been clocked, has it been run regularly enough to avoid engine ceasing (not sure if thats the correct spelling). If it looks too good to be true it probably is and as said, there are loads to choose from out there
05 WRX PPP with just over 20k miles, FSH, clearly been cherished by the owner (oil changed himself in-between services etc)... on balance I figured the WRX PPP is a good balance between what I want and what I need. And stealthy in silver, which is also good.
Thanks for all your advice!
You will have to get some pics up now, welcome to the world of Scoobies!!!
mr p1 said:
Greenwood Racing Developments in the 8 years of tuning scoobys i don't remember them sorry £10,000+ to get 500bhp and you have to use 109ron fuel i think its not a good idea i got 360bhp for £1800ish and it will not blow up how much is 109ron VP fuel
I think you are missing the point of this! It has been done to see what the car can take and to max out the capability of the ECU. ChrisO said:
Evil.soup said:
Superchips as said dont really work very well with your car, a re-map will tune the engine to best performance for the individual ability of each engine.
12k in 5 years seems a bit too good for me too, it makes you ask some questions such as, has it been crashed and sitting in a breakers for 3 years then repaired, has it been clocked, has it been run regularly enough to avoid engine ceasing (not sure if thats the correct spelling). If it looks too good to be true it probably is and as said, there are loads to choose from out there
Just to update you all, I bought a Scoob yesterday! 12k in 5 years seems a bit too good for me too, it makes you ask some questions such as, has it been crashed and sitting in a breakers for 3 years then repaired, has it been clocked, has it been run regularly enough to avoid engine ceasing (not sure if thats the correct spelling). If it looks too good to be true it probably is and as said, there are loads to choose from out there
05 WRX PPP with just over 20k miles, FSH, clearly been cherished by the owner (oil changed himself in-between services etc)... on balance I figured the WRX PPP is a good balance between what I want and what I need. And stealthy in silver, which is also good.
Thanks for all your advice!
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