Engine flush?
Engine flush?
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tvr5000

Original Poster:

391 posts

260 months

Wednesday 26th December 2007
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Is it advisable to use engine flush before dropping the oil?
Cheers

Slacey

1,113 posts

244 months

Thursday 27th December 2007
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I used to on my modern (2002) MR2 engine, but have been advised not to on the RV8. Would also welcome any advice on this!

peter miller

196 posts

282 months

Thursday 27th December 2007
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In theory an engine flush sounds great, clearing gunk and varnish build up from all the oilways and mechanicals allowing for removal of harmful deposits and increasing oil flow throughout the engine. However with every plus there is a minus, If you were to look at any bearing surface (Cam,followers, crank etc) under a microscope it would not be perfectly smooth, you would see many imperfections like pockets and ridges.
It is these imperfections that gradually build up with oil residue that does not drain into the sump when the engine stops running, and gives critical lubrication from start up hence reducing pure metal to metal contact so helping to reduce wear. An engine flush will clear away this residue which obviously should be avoided as cold start protection may be reduced.
A flush will also clear build up from valve guides rings etc, which especially on an older engine could increase oil consumption, even increasing blue smoke exiting the rear, especially if using a lower viscosity oil. I think you will find this experience reported on other threads if you do a search.
In my opinion the number one for engine maintainance is "REGULAR" changes yearly at maximum, regardless of mileage as even if you only do a couple of thousand miles a year as the chances are low milage will indicate short periodic jouneys which do not allow the engine and lubricants to get hot enough to burn off moisture created.


Edited by peter miller on Thursday 27th December 11:03


Edited by peter miller on Thursday 27th December 11:05

Sam Gamgee

966 posts

283 months

Thursday 27th December 2007
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Friend of mine has good idea-he drops the old oil, buys a cheap, thin oil, puts this in, runs engine, drops cheapie oil (now very black and dirty), refills with good stuff. His corrado has done 115000 miles at least and gets used frequently, runs fine, no probs. In fact, never any engine probs.......

Dave.

peter miller

196 posts

282 months

Thursday 27th December 2007
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Sam Gamgee said:
Friend of mine has good idea-he drops the old oil, buys a cheap, thin oil, puts this in, runs engine, drops cheapie oil (now very black and dirty), refills with good stuff. His corrado has done 115000 miles at least and gets used frequently, runs fine, no probs. In fact, never any engine probs.......

Dave.
Agreed, Much better than letting a detergent get pumped around.

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Thursday 27th December 2007
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But you don't get it all out when you do a change? I've heard of people topping up with diesel oil for a bit before the oil change if they want to clean the engine out, it apparently has stronger detergents in it.

Dave

Bomber Denton

8,762 posts

298 months

Thursday 27th December 2007
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As a rule I hate the bloody stuff. Sometimes when an engine is run on fully synth for a long time you sometimes get varnish glaze on the bore etc, this can be reduced by running a mineral for say 300 miles before returning to fully synth.
I would go for changing the oil more frequently, making sure it's red hot before changing and allowing to drain for at least half an hour.

That Daddy

19,461 posts

251 months

Friday 28th December 2007
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Dont use the crap,instead change the oil on time,that way you dont need to use flush oilrolleyesif you feel the need to flush use a mineral oil for a couple hundred miles then change that,but dont use flushing oil.