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Twin turbo 1UZFE!!!! I don't understand how they could cost more...the engine, only mildly modded will spit out over 800 horses (which is plenty for a 990? KG car).
Most of the cost will be the turbo setup & labour. I'd think by the time a chevy man bought his ls1/ls6, did the mods he wanted, the costs probally wouldn't be too far off each other. Of course, you could always then TT the chevy...
BTW, I'm looking to go with my 'custom' car. Hell if a Diablo fell into my lap, I'd sell it to finance the never ending mods
Most of the cost will be the turbo setup & labour. I'd think by the time a chevy man bought his ls1/ls6, did the mods he wanted, the costs probally wouldn't be too far off each other. Of course, you could always then TT the chevy...
BTW, I'm looking to go with my 'custom' car. Hell if a Diablo fell into my lap, I'd sell it to finance the never ending mods
italiano said:
Twin turbo 1UZFE!!!! I don't understand how they could cost more...the engine, only mildly modded will spit out over 800 horses (which is plenty for a 990? KG car).
Most of the cost will be the turbo setup & labour. I'd think by the time a chevy man bought his ls1/ls6, did the mods he wanted, the costs probally wouldn't be too far off each other. Of course, you could always then TT the chevy...
BTW, I'm looking to go with my 'custom' car. Hell if a Diablo fell into my lap, I'd sell it to finance the never ending mods
What car is fitted with a 1UZFE engine? Is it possible to get it in the US?
I think this thread has been done before with the Lexus lump. As I remember the Lexus lump was quite expensive to tune and wasn't that strong by the time you are reaching 700+ hp. I will see if I can find the old link..
Must admit though, I welcome the new technology, and the refinement for such a car as the Ultima, although the true purists (Ted etc) would disagree for sure. I guess its the old case of if it works why change it?
edited to add link www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=37906&f=20&h=0&hw=lexus
>> Edited by ultimasimon on Monday 14th July 23:52
Must admit though, I welcome the new technology, and the refinement for such a car as the Ultima, although the true purists (Ted etc) would disagree for sure. I guess its the old case of if it works why change it?
edited to add link www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=37906&f=20&h=0&hw=lexus
>> Edited by ultimasimon on Monday 14th July 23:52
Spottty said:
I think a V12 would suit the car. I don't know how easy it would be to get 600hp out of one though.
See here www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=26714&f=20&h=0&hw=v12
Yeah a v12 would be nice.
Ultimasimon, I think you'll find that that thread was created by me
The thing is only have to mildly mod them to put out 800 horses. Most of the cost are the parts for the turbocharging and labour. Engine management is very cheap in Aus, and you can find these engines for for just a bit over 1k US.
If you let them breath, they also give a great engine note. They sound refined, but brutal at the same time. They also like to rev, 7k RPM is no problem stock. Having only 4 litres, it's never going to be a torque monster (in NA anyway).
We've all already dicussed this (over around 4 or 5 pages?), and most concluded that it is not the right engine for the Ultima (and I'd agree). My point was that it is a competitive alternative (in TT form).
Back to the 12s. I know a few guys on this forum have BMW V12 Ultima's. I'm hoping someone will order that new cadillac (I'm not american, I don't know how to spell it) v12. Think it was 7 litres, 750 hp (don't know torque), and also meant to be the size of a v8 (I'd assume they mean an LS1).
This engine would sound awesome, wouldn't need mods (although they could be fun), and would definately be unique. I'd think they'd also cost a fortune.
Ultima Lover, since when do all Toyota engines have a 'Z'? As far as I know, only the UZ series (v8s), the JZ series (1jz and 2jz), and the GZ series (I think it's 1GZ for toyota's V12) have 'Z' in them.
I think Toyota uses 'Z' to mean supercharged, but only when it's in the second half the of engine name (e.g. the GTE part).
Ultimasimon, I think you'll find that that thread was created by me
The thing is only have to mildly mod them to put out 800 horses. Most of the cost are the parts for the turbocharging and labour. Engine management is very cheap in Aus, and you can find these engines for for just a bit over 1k US.
If you let them breath, they also give a great engine note. They sound refined, but brutal at the same time. They also like to rev, 7k RPM is no problem stock. Having only 4 litres, it's never going to be a torque monster (in NA anyway).
We've all already dicussed this (over around 4 or 5 pages?), and most concluded that it is not the right engine for the Ultima (and I'd agree). My point was that it is a competitive alternative (in TT form).
Back to the 12s. I know a few guys on this forum have BMW V12 Ultima's. I'm hoping someone will order that new cadillac (I'm not american, I don't know how to spell it) v12. Think it was 7 litres, 750 hp (don't know torque), and also meant to be the size of a v8 (I'd assume they mean an LS1).
This engine would sound awesome, wouldn't need mods (although they could be fun), and would definately be unique. I'd think they'd also cost a fortune.
Ultima Lover, since when do all Toyota engines have a 'Z'? As far as I know, only the UZ series (v8s), the JZ series (1jz and 2jz), and the GZ series (I think it's 1GZ for toyota's V12) have 'Z' in them.
I think Toyota uses 'Z' to mean supercharged, but only when it's in the second half the of engine name (e.g. the GTE part).
Hey Italiano...I think you are on to something. I did some research today when I had free time and I came across an 800 horsepower twin turbocharged lexus v8 engine. The guy didn't say how much exactly he spent, but I am getting an idea that it wasn't outrageous. It turns out the guy created a Ferrari F40 clone and instead of using the Ferrari V-8 TT with 478 horespower, he used a Lexus V-8 TT with 800+ horespower. The guy had a passion for the F-40 and couldn't have one, so he built his own. Anyways, before this gets any longer..the Lexus V-8 TT sounds and performs awesome. In one of the videos, he is blowing the door handles off a Porsche 911 turbo like it's nothing. Check out the site guys..the project was a great job indeed.
www.f40.co.nz/f40/index.htm
www.f40.co.nz/f40/index.htm
And..how about that bodywork for the F40..huh? It looks exactly like the real thing. They did a damn good job!! I probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the real thing and the silhouette unless I was in the car, under the hood or heard the engine. Hmmm....who can get their hands on some Enzo molds? 
Yep doc, that was a built engine Still, building a Lexus v8TT surely isn't as expensive as say a TT chevy v8.
I was watching the vid clips the other day and it really does sound amazing. Really getting the clean revving sound similiar to Ferrari's (although it still had a growl lower down the rev).
That is how replica's should be built. Doc, you know there's a place in Aus actually building Diablo replica's (not off fiero cars)? Looks are a killer, thing that stops me is the fact that it isn't real
Saw a yellow diablo last wkend, couldn't hear the engine (heavy traffic) so I don't know if it was real. Looked awesome anyway (love cars with fat asses)
Still, building a Lexus v8TT surely isn't as expensive as say a TT chevy v8. I was watching the vid clips the other day and it really does sound amazing. Really getting the clean revving sound similiar to Ferrari's (although it still had a growl lower down the rev).
That is how replica's should be built. Doc, you know there's a place in Aus actually building Diablo replica's (not off fiero cars)? Looks are a killer, thing that stops me is the fact that it isn't real
Saw a yellow diablo last wkend, couldn't hear the engine (heavy traffic) so I don't know if it was real. Looked awesome anyway (love cars with fat asses)
Have you all looked at the LT5 engine?
DOHC alum 5.7L V8 used in the 90-95 Corvette ZR1. Makes 405hp (same as the LS6 in the new z06 corvette.)
You can still buy these in crate for $12,500 USD. I don't know if they're legal in Aus. A few modders are pushing them over 600hp without internal mods (using turbos/superchargers). Or at least they aren't claiming any internal mods
Ash
DOHC alum 5.7L V8 used in the 90-95 Corvette ZR1. Makes 405hp (same as the LS6 in the new z06 corvette.)
You can still buy these in crate for $12,500 USD. I don't know if they're legal in Aus. A few modders are pushing them over 600hp without internal mods (using turbos/superchargers). Or at least they aren't claiming any internal mods
Ash
Ash,
Three problems come to mind;
1. At $US12500 the LT5 is about $5K dearer than an LS6 and you could do alot with $5k,
2. I dont know if it would fit into the Ultima chassis as surely the LT5 is significantly wider than an LS1/6 and
3. I dont know if the LT5 would pass current emissions (equivalent to Euro 3).
Has anyone looked at using an LT5?
Andy
Three problems come to mind;
1. At $US12500 the LT5 is about $5K dearer than an LS6 and you could do alot with $5k,
2. I dont know if it would fit into the Ultima chassis as surely the LT5 is significantly wider than an LS1/6 and
3. I dont know if the LT5 would pass current emissions (equivalent to Euro 3).
Has anyone looked at using an LT5?
Andy
Also, the 1UZFE costs pocket change to replace. The engines actually have a nice sound to them (with modded exhaust). Higher up the rev range they have almost ferrari-like smoothness. These things love to be revved (and I love engines that have the need to be revved).
12500 is roughly 19kAU. I'm sure I could have a twin turbo lexus v8 pushing more than 600hp for that. The lexus can put out well over 600 with only mild mods (I'm talking once it's been turbod).
Doc, I've decided that I'm doing my custom body, whether I get an Ultima (the chassis) or not. Still wouldn't mind comparing our cars though. Should have the funds to start in jan/feb (depending how my investments go).
12500 is roughly 19kAU. I'm sure I could have a twin turbo lexus v8 pushing more than 600hp for that. The lexus can put out well over 600 with only mild mods (I'm talking once it's been turbod).
Doc, I've decided that I'm doing my custom body, whether I get an Ultima (the chassis) or not. Still wouldn't mind comparing our cars though. Should have the funds to start in jan/feb (depending how my investments go).
Hmmm. My mid 5 fig guess was spot on. "ND4SPD" would probally go for even higher, but it'd be worth it (has to be THE ULTIMATE number plate for a supercar).
Do know what the roads are like up in the NT? I'd think pretty $hitty, but it'd be nice to experience open roads at 250+Km/hr. Guess we'll be spending plenty of time at the tracks.
Out of interest, anyone here got interesting plates?
Do know what the roads are like up in the NT? I'd think pretty $hitty, but it'd be nice to experience open roads at 250+Km/hr. Guess we'll be spending plenty of time at the tracks.
Out of interest, anyone here got interesting plates?
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